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7 hours ago, Sue said:

That hasn't answered PeckhamPan's  request for evidence to support the statements  you made previously, has it?

Probably because you haven't got any 🤣

Sue - you now want the thread lounged or the posts removed that quote levels of criminality in London.

But let me just get this straight, wasn't it you who was "requesting" evidence of the levels of crime in London, happily saying "I probably didn't have any" evidence. And low and behold I produce some authentic data and you now want the thread lounged or those bits which relate to London/UK being removed. 

Tell you what, why not just ask Admin to remove all the posts that disagree with your point of view that London is not lawless, because I'm happy to see it lounged, deleted, the posts you don't like deleted.

In fact - Hi, Joe, guess you've been watching this thread unfold, please feel free to delete any post or part posts of mine you consider to have broken any of the forum rules. 

But what I do object to, is having someone (Peckhampan) being allowed to openly say that "I spread mis information" and "throwing untruths about". That is wholly untrue, inaccurate and a lie.  

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14 hours ago, jazzer said:

Is this an interagation, because it is beginning to feel like it is, answers, answers you demand, I am not wasting my time trolling around for evidence, its a feeling living in London, seeing the blue tape, the white tents where a death has occurred unnaturally in the street, the road, the park, it can happen anywhere, just read the papers and watch the news, open your eyes because crime at all levels is close by to all of us. 

Perhaps you should stop reading the papers and watching the news.  You make it sound like a war zone. 

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Jazzer - you didn't provide the stats that Sue requested for violent crimes against the person in international urban areas to compare with stats for London, you only provided data for London.  It's like someone being proclaimed the winner of a race when there is only one competitor.

Suggest you stop doing a Gregg Wallace.

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12 hours ago, jazzer said:

Sue - you now want the thread lounged or the posts removed that quote levels of criminality in London.

But let me just get this straight, wasn't it you who was "requesting" evidence of the levels of crime in London, happily saying "I probably didn't have any" evidence. And low and behold I produce some authentic data and you now want the thread lounged or those bits which relate to London/UK being removed.

Perhaps read my posts properly.

I didn't ask for evidence of levels of crime in London.

To the best of my recollection, I asked you to provide comparative statistics for levels of crime in similar urban areas nationally  and internationally.

I will ask you again. Do you have those statistics?

And to the best of my knowledge I never asked for "bits which relate to London/UK" to be removed. What a very strange thing to say. I presumably meant that your post wasn't specifically  related to SE22, which posts in this section of the forum are supposed to be.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about crime in London. Why do you still continue to live here if you think it is such a very dangerous place?

You seem to go around deliberately looking for signs of crime. Why not start appreciating all the good things about living in London, instead?

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I haven't made questionable and exaggerated statements that need to be evidenced. Did you see PeckhamPam's earlier post?

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"I think Jazzer is quite properly backing off-he can't be bothered with evidence but admits a feeling.  He may wish to back off further after looking at these figures from a report by UCL at the end of 2022 which was a benchmarking comparison of crimes around the world

The figures are homicides per 100,000 inhabitants  - Milan and Rome have the fewest and then comes London.  The report notes that most US cities have a much higher rate, and surprisingly (to me) Asian cities tend to come in lower. 

Barcelona
(3.1)
Berlin (2.9)
London (1.4)
Madrid (1.9)
Milan (0.7)
Paris (1.7)
Rome (1.3)

I think this is the first time I have ever bothered to take issue with what is posted on the forum but I feel strongly about the issue of people throwing untruths about.  Vulnerable people read things like Jazzer wrote and curtail their lives out of fear.  Fear brings mistrust of other people and so it goes on."

 

But keep digging

 

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1 hour ago, jazzer said:

Sue and JenJenJen, suggest you do your own research and present the results, then we'll see how things stand. 

And clearly Admin doesn't have a problem. 

Why should we? It's you who is not backing up what you are stating on here.

On 16/12/2024 at 23:23, jazzer said:

London is probably currently stab and shooting capital in the world. Its terrible. 

To examine the accuracy of your statement one needs data from other international cities for comparison. But I think you're just trolling now.

4 hours ago, jazzer said:

I'll amend the statement if that makes you happy to "London experiences high levels of fatal stabbings and shootings"

You see , the problem is that what you say above is meaningless given that the levels are lower than many previous years and lower than much of European capitals and most of American cities. 

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