Extinction Rebellion to camp on Peckham Rye park for 2 weeks

[McMurphy]

I suspect they didn't leave anything behind because they're fundamentally decent and unselfish people who care about the environment and hence wouldn't leave waste. Somehow doubt they would take all of their camp with them on holiday.

Hammerman - Please provide link to press story about XR protester jetting off around the world on regular holidays abroad. Note regular does not mean frequent.

[first mate]

If true, it does seem a bit of a contradictory position. To fly abroad for a holiday is a choice, after all. However, a link would be fair.

Glad the Rye has been left spotless.

[Rockets]

Sue Wrote:

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> Why on earth would someone be sectioned for taking

> part in a protest against the continuing use of

> fossil fuels?

>

> It isn't the people protesting who are insane

> 😡

Repeatedly sitting in the road in front of traffic refusing to move is the type of behaviour to get you sectioned....regardless of what the motive is.

Interesting to see if this police tactic is repeated at future protests...XR want to he arrested so if you don't give them what they want and threaten to call an ambulance for them is a smart move.

[mac4]

I don't understand why the police or emergency services spend time and effort to unglue protesters when they, or the public, are NOT in danger (ie not in the middle of a road etc). If protesters glue themselves elsewhere (for example railings or a reception desk in an office building) let them unglue themselves. There must be more important things to do than unglue people who've chosen to glue themselves.

[Angelina]

I don't understand the blanket attack on XR members.

There are some people who are extremists (there always are) but that does not diminish the message.

It certainly doesn't warrant the distain shown.

[Nigello]

This idea that aviation is a big devil is nonsense. Aviation accounts for some 2.1% of human induced emissions. If you?ve no car, pet, two kids or fewer, you?re already doing pretty greenly. Air travel is getting greener - fuels and airliner materials, with investment also in electric aircraft. The go to bogeyman is airline travel but it?s not the biggest offender by a long chalk.

https://www.atag.org/facts-figures.html

[Spartacus]

I think that one of the concerns of flying is that the emissions occur higher up in the atmosphere where they have other impacts (this report explains the thinking https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-calculating-the-true-climate-impact-of-aviation-emissions)

It appears that the overall effect of flying has a bigger impact than the 2.8% identified in 2018.

Yes, aircraft design changes are coming but electric planes won't be able to replicate the speed of a jet engined plane as we don't have that technology yet (it's why Jets superseded propeller planes) so we may have to accept increases in trip times to be truly green