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Grabot-I think you're right. Ok, maybe I am over generalising about ED mums, and perhaps it's the cafe environment that's to blame--too many people with kids with only ONE real place to go in ED. Maybe some clever person will open another equally child-friendly cafe so all of us jostling to get into PRC can have more breathing room. I often wonder why the owner doesn't ban pushchairs that are not in use from the cafe. There's certainly enough parking space outside, plus with all the windows easy enough to keep an eye on them.
I concur on the pushchair front. Otherwise, the Clockhouse or Herne are not necesarily bad options, depending on the time; we have taken our baby daughter to both places. The Clockhouse does good coffee and the Herne markets itself as a family friendly establishment. And, on a happy note, it will soon be summer and picnics on the Rye will be the order of the day :-)

Scruffy Mummy Wrote:

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> No, no - most of us are very friendly and kind.

> My toddler had a right

> lie-down-on-the-floor-end-of-the-day-tired-out

> tantrum in Sommerfield on the weekend - all I

> could do was stand there and wait till it was over

> really and I got many kind smiles of understanding

> and one lovely woman said she thought I had a

> great deal of patience. (But I knew that shouting

> at toddler when he was in this state would only

> make it worse!!)

>

> But there is the occasionally type A person - man,

> woman, parent, childfree who doesn't like you in

> their space at all. Case in point. Was walking

> with a friend on the path along the Goose Green

> Playground with our toddlers about a month ago, We

> were engrossed in conversation and didn't notice

> the jogger coming towards us. Instead of simply

> saying 'Excuse me', he said 'FOR F**** Sake' as he

> jogged around us!! I was sure there would be a

> posting about selfish, inconsiderate ED mummies on

> the forum that evening. Personally, I think it's

> a London thing!



Scruffy Mummy.


Is there anything that do you like? If not well educated men, runners who can watch where they are running (as opposed to taking up a whole pavement and not looking where they are going)... or infact anything London?

I don?t know if it was the same in the UK but growing up in SA the term ?Yummy Mummy? referred to a sexy attractive woman who happened to be pushing a pram around. These days in ED it seems to just refer to a woman with kids. Some of them are kinda attractive yeah but there isn?t any major ?whoarh? factor down the lane on a Saturday.

And there was I thinking that "yummy mummy" was just a more polite version of "MILF"....:))



For the life of me I cannot understand why a term like this - and "politically correct" is another example" - seems always to be commandeered by antagonists and turned into a term of abuse.

snorky Wrote:

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> The thrusting pain in the arsey mummies seem to

> congregate together - you only notice the ones

> whop are particl;arly nauseating I think , even

> thou the vast majoprity of people in the cafes are

> Ok



Exactly right!


It does make me laugh on this forum when someone says anything about parents / prams / babies in public places, all the parents come out fighting! One must not generalise, but as Snorky says, you don't notice the nice parents so much, you notice the bloody horrible ones who think that having a baby gives them some special right to basically be a total tw@t.


I remember flying to Singapore on the way to Australia and being stuck behind this horrific excuse for a human who decided that the fact she had a child (who was very well behaved and quiet the whole journey) gave her the right to be really rude to the lovely polite flight attendants, put her chair ALL THE WAY BACK against me legs for the whole time, and kick up a fuss when asked to put it forward so I could eat! She even said something along the lines of "but I'm a parent to a young child".

I think you also have to examine your mood at the time. Think about why you are getting irritated. It may have more to do with you than the people around you. I normally don?t mind kids at all. I actually find it amusing watching them running around the pub one step ahead of a frantic parent. It?s a bit like watching a Road Runner cartoon. But sometimes I will find myself in a bad mood and the thing to do then is just to avoid places with kids.


A few weeks ago I went into the Plough for lunch and there were these two little boys playing about. They were not in any way being obnoxious or misbehaved, just being kids. I was a bit stressed out from work and things and for some reason it really irritated me to the point where I rushed through my lunch and left all scowling.


As I was walking back home I suddenly felt like a real dick. It was just that at that specific point I was in a bad mood and probably shouldn?t have gone out at all.

snorky Wrote:

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> The thrusting pain in the arsey mummies seem to

> congregate together - you only notice the ones

> whop are particl;arly nauseating I think , even

> thou the vast majoprity of people in the cafes are

> Ok

>

> best to avoid the likes of Blue mountain if you

> want to keep these lot at a distance - Dulwich

> park cafe is pretty bad at ther weekends &

> lunchtimes - be prepared for paddington bear hard

> stares should you manage to get a table and sit

> there waiting for your food.

>

> Oh, and if this does happen you you, I find piling

> the kids plates high with ketchup is enough to

> blanche these peoples faces - Ketchup is

> considered a a form of child abuse for these

> shitehawks and a table smeared in catsup could

> well be sprinkled with Polonium as far as they are

> concerned


You are kidding? The Red Persuader is off limits now too?

"It does make me laugh on this forum when someone says anything about parents / prams / babies in public places, all the parents come out fighting! One must not generalise, but as Snorky says, you don't notice the nice parents so much, you notice the bloody horrible ones who think that having a baby gives them some special right to basically be a total tw@t."


All the parents come out fighting precisely because, on this issue, there are so many generalised comments - witness the title of this thread!


Being a parent doesn't determine whether someone is a tw@t or not, it just gives them a few extra ways of expressing it i.e. "please walk on the road, I'm coming through with an enormous pushchair". And being a parent doesn't stop you thinking that some other parents are tw@ts. Or even telling them.

An interesting thread. The main reason I moved to the area was for the mix of young single people like me as well as the families and older people. I like the idea of a mixed community and couldn't face living in a "youth" area like Clapham where I would only be surrounded by people like me. I must say though the comment about private school is a bit harsh. Not everyone who has been to private school (remember it's the parents choice not the kids often) comes out an arrogant twat. I think I am pretty considerate to prams, kids etc... Even when they are screaming their heads off!

*Bob* Wrote:

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> A black woman shouted abuse about at me from her

> car the other day.

>

> Black women - you need to relax.


*Bob* I love you. you have cheered me up enormously


I have just been asked to reschedule my holiday by someone who has a child, because when I'm taking time off is the only time she can go, because otherwise the prices go up and she and her partner aren't going to be able to afford childcare AND a trip to Thailand. Luckily I'm her boss, so I said no.


But this leads me to the inevitable conclusion that all parents are evil.


When I bloody moved to East Dulwich, it was full of single people. However, unlike me, they have moved on with their lives and procreated and now have children with floppy hair and silly names. So not only do the grown ups run over my feet with their bumble bee prams, but little Maximillion gets a table before me in the Bishop when I am hungover and in need of a meaty breakfast because his parents are so bloody organised they reserved a table. B@stards!


Brendan, I suspect you might be right...

Another Forum gripe at ED parents (or Mums in particular).

Boredboredboredboredbored.

Let's face it the feckless a*seholes with babies/toddlers/prams were the same feckless a*seholes a couple of years ago and childless. Most of us are decent, respectful, well mannered people, at least that is until some nubile without-child young thing gets in my way..........

georgina Wrote:

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> I agree with Ganapati ED Mum's are a nightmare -

> what did childless woman do to them to warrant

> such looks of utter contempt whilst browsing in Ed

> on a Saturday afternoon?

>

> Perhaps I answered my own question with - 'what

> did childless woman do...'


This has to be post of the day, imo! >:D< I get so tired of opening doors for 'the yummy mummies' of ED, for them not to even acknowledge you, let alone thank you.


Has anyone noticed when you are walking along the road with your friends/boyfriend and the 'yummy mummy' and her brood are approaching from the other direction, they never move either, it's like they think they own the place!


I moved to ED 10 years ago and it never used to be this bad, a friend of mine repeatedly described it as 'the breeding programme' and we gave up going out for Saturday lunch/coffee as we were not made to feel welcome by the many 'yummy mummies' in the Blue Mountain. Funnily, enough I was out with a friend and her new born daughter a few weeks ago & even she commented to me it was 'all too much' ... I'm all for 'child friendly' places, but when you are made not to feel welcome in your neighbourhood, you know it's time to move on ...!! :))

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