what did he put in your kids mouth ????

[mashcov]

Shocking news of a Paedophile working at Dulwich College

A man who was working at the canteen in Dulwich college has been convicted of child pornography offences. The judge let him walk free ( Judge was also a former student at the college )

The judge Andrew Goymer commented: 'You have escaped prison by a gap so narrow that you could hardly see daylight through it'

But the gap was large enough for him to walk free through it.

Excuse the title which is in bad taste but I find it highly suspicious that the posters at this forum see fit to report the minutae of the tiniest real or imagined offences in this area but have nothing to say on this shocking subject.

[Sue]

mashcov Wrote:

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I find

> it highly suspicious that the posters at this

> forum see fit to report the minutae of the tiniest

> real or imagined offences in this area but have

> nothing to say on this shocking subject.

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"Suspicious"? In what way, exactly?

Probably they, like me, have not heard anything about it.

Can we have a link to the news report please?

[mashcov]

http://news.silobreaker.com/canteen-worker-at-dulwich-college-spared-jail-after-sending-depraved-child-porn-on-the-internet-5_2266611523801579681

[mashcov]

I should have used the word strange rather than suspicious.

Some dog (or fox) does it's business on somebody's door step and the whole of east dulwich knows about it within the hour.

I was surprised that no one had commented on this story which is on the front page of the local newspapers

[Loz]

That's maybe because no one actually reads the local papers.

[minder]

Thanks for this mashcov and the daily mail online.

[healey]

So what do you want people to do exactly? Form a lynch mob? Burn him at the stake?

He'll now be on the sexual offenses register. Even if he did time he'd be out in less than a year.

[Mike Dodd]

Totally agree mashcov like you said, if it was a dog

[Huguenot]

What did he put in your kids' mouth? WTF? Are you trying to suggest he sexually assaulted school children? You're aware that claim is both a criminal offense and abusive fabrication of the highest order?

So far as I can make out mashcov, this is a story about a local school catering employee exchanging child porn online.

He has been found guilty and subjected to a number of correctional, preventative and penalty measures.

What else do you want? Everyone running in tight circles holding their faces and screaming?

BTW - I do want to point out that he has not been convicted of being a paedophile: watching child porn doesn't make you a paedophile any more than watching CSI makes you a murderer. Obsession can be a little further down that line, but that would make the average teenager playing Medal of Honour for 20 hours a week a psychotic.

[first mate]

Huguenot said:

"BTW - I do want to point out that he has not been convicted of being a paedophile: watching child porn doesn't make you a paedophile any more than watching CSI makes you a murderer. Obsession can be a little further down that line, but that would make the average teenager playing Medal of Honour for 20 hours a week a psychotic".

That is a clever argument and though you might be technically correct in terms of law I would submit that those who obsessively look at child porn are more likely to be paedophiles or to have some kind of paedophile impulses- what other reason would make you want to look at it over and over again? Additionally CSI is fiction, ditto Medal of Honour. Child porn is real life, the children being exploited and abused are real.

The definition of a paedophile is that one is sexually attracted to children- it is not necessary to act on those impulses for the definition to be relevant.The interest in chid sex can co-exist with an interest in adult sex.

Aside from detective/enforcement work or academic research, what would be the point of looking at child pornography, downloading and keeping it?

[crockers]

watching americas next top model doesnt make you a supermodel anymore than watching csi makes you a murderer. but watching child porn does make you a paedophile, paedophilia is characterised by a sexual interest in children. It is horrible for you to imply that watching child porn is as innocent and blameless as watching prime time tv.

[Chillaxed]

Weird post OP.

You'll find that people post about crimes that directly affect them or that it is helpful to know about e.g. burglaries and the burglars' modus operandi.

Personally I think the fact that the EDF doesn't rabidly obsess over these sorts of crimes to be in its favour.

[first mate]

I don't want to have a pass me the smelling salts moment, but I do think the title is a bit OTT.

[StraferJack]

"Personally I think the fact that the EDF doesn't rabidly obsess over these sorts of crimes to be in its favour."

or didn't used to at any rate

so much

these days it's like the most depressing issue of South London Press ever printed

[mashcov]

Chillaxed Wrote:

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> Weird post OP.

>

> You'll find that people post about crimes that

> directly affect them or that it is helpful to know

> about e.g. burglaries and the burglars' modus

> operandi.

>

> Personally I think the fact that the EDF doesn't

> rabidly obsess over these sorts of crimes to be in

> its favour.

That may be but I think it is a crime that parents might want to know about particularly if they had a child attending this school

[LadyDeliah]

Can you stop calling it porn when it involves kids. It's not porn, it's rape and abuse of children on film or pictures, not porn.

[KidKruger]

tell the police, they also use the expression 'child pornography'.

[Chillaxed]

I'm sure the school has taken care of that.

And I doubt too many EDF'ers have kids at DC.

mashcov Wrote:

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> Chillaxed Wrote:

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> > Weird post OP.

> >

> > You'll find that people post about crimes that

> > directly affect them or that it is helpful to

> know

> > about e.g. burglaries and the burglars' modus

> > operandi.

> >

> > Personally I think the fact that the EDF

> doesn't

> > rabidly obsess over these sorts of crimes to be

> in

> > its favour.

>

>

> That may be but I think it is a crime that parents

> might want to know about particularly if they had

> a child attending this school

[LadyDeliah]

Yeh, I know. I just hate it. It adds the titillation factor to something that is an horrendous criminal act so I think calling it what it is, instead of lumping it with adult porn, would be preferable.

[mashcov]

Particular areas can have problems with particular types of crimes.

East Dulwich is an area with a very high percentage of children and a lot of families, probably the sort of area a paedophile could be attracted to. Does it make sense to just ignore this sort of crime and focus only on the burglaries and bike thefts?

I agree with Lady Delilah 'child porn' involves watching the rape and abuse of children. These children are real people just like your children or nieces or nephews. I find it strange that people want to either stay silent or trivialise it.

[Penguin68]

The individual was not accused of molesting children at the school, so the first anyone would have known about it locally in Dulwich is a report of his arrest and charging, deriving from the police operation to trace subscribers to offensive pornography sites - when the sort of comments it would seem that the OP would have wanted to see would all have been sub-judice.

His conviction was reported in the press (which is how I, and many of you, and the OP got to hear about it) - but again, as the offences were not against anyone in Dulwich, nor is there any suggestion that Dulwich people were immediately at risk, it is very much not (except in the sense that he was employed locally) a local story.

It is clearly true that (some) people who initially indulge in voyeuristic activity (which is what the viewing of pornography is) then graduate to more participative offences - though by no means all do (and the market for child pornography clearly can be seen as contributory to the acts against children that this records - and hence makes child pornography viewers complicit in the acts of raping children) - but to make an assumption that all viewers of child pornography are themselves active (rather than complicit) child molesters is simply wrong.

Unless and until it is made clear that this criminal was actually active in this area (and the fact that he wasn't imprisoned makes it pretty clear that his acts as far as anyone knows are still only as a voyeur and not an active molester) then his role in the school is immaterial.

On the forum we complain about poo and bottles of strange stuff and parking because these are trivial issues which no one else cares about, and we alert each other to stories of (suspected) child abduction (and burglary/ muggings) because these are serious issues 'in progress' - but getting too excited about a crime which didn't happen on 'our' patch, which has been discovered and the culprit tried and convicted would seem to add neither value nor enjoyment to the forum.

[StraferJack]

mashcov - you appear to have missed the many threads on here over the years about strangers in parks, taking photographs, attempted abductions etc

For you to say people are staying silent is bizaare.

As for this case, teh guy was caught - what else is there to say?

[mashcov]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> On the forum we complain about poo and bottles of

> strange stuff and parking because these are

> trivial issues which no one else cares about, and

> we alert each other to stories of (suspected)

> child abduction (and burglary/ muggings) because

> these are serious issues 'in progress' - but

> getting too excited about a crime which didn't

> happen on 'our' patch, which has been discovered

> and the culprit tried and convicted would seem to

> add neither value nor enjoyment to the forum.

How can you say that the crime didn't happen on our patch? Paedophiles often seek out jobs where they can get access to children. This is often how they graduate from being voyeurs to abusers.

If he was working at a local school then at least we can be thankful that he was apprehended before he graduated to becoming an abuser.

That he had intentions to become an active abuser is clear from the details given in court. Harding claimed he wanted to 'groom a young kid and educate him in the best sex going and get him to recruit young kids too'.

You might consider that it was a serious issue in progress halted by the intervention of the police.

[mashcov]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> mashcov - you appear to have missed the many

> threads on here over the years about strangers in

> parks, taking photographs, attempted abductions

> etc

>

> For you to say people are staying silent is

> bizaare.

>

Yes I have missed these threads as I am fairly new to the area. All I have seen in the past few months is threads about poo and bottles of piss etc.

[the-e-dealer]

Deeply Shocked that Mushcow took so long to post his thread. Where was he?