Polly Toynbee in The Guardian

[Nero]

People are good at grumbling about everything, yet they won't lift a finger to change anything.

Way to go, Pol. Has she been reading the EDF?

Nero

[mockney piers]

She wouldn't be the first journo to lift a story straight out the EDF now would she.

[Nero]

It's all circular! But I agree with her sentiments about all talk, no action in society in general.

[mockney piers]

This is more of a zig-zag in fairness.

I may be her perfect blustering do-nothinger, so I can see her point, but frankly she's talking bollocks. There are plenty of people getting involved politically, through charities, voluntary services etc all over the place.

She's just getting all uppity because she's realised what a whinging wind-bag she truly is.

[Nero]

But her columns are her way of doing her bit, maybe? Anyway, I like her as she's sometimes reactionary and yet has a social conscience. Cf John Humprhys (whose THE GREAT FOOD GAMBLE I am reading right now).

[mockney piers]

I know I know, I'm not especially far from her politically but she winds me up in a way only Johann Hari can surpass.

[giggirl]

Whoever you vote for, the Government gets in.

[HonaloochieB]

Does anyone know where they run these chattering classes I hear so much about these days?

[mockney piers]

CPT 4th April, 19:30. You signing up?

[????]

"The Guardian" & "Polly Toynbee"......Don't think I'll be going anywhere near this article befor 2074ish........it's just a different version of "The Daily Mail" & "Richard Littlejohn" IMO

[SeanMacGabhann]

One being full of vitriol, hatred and all. . Whereas the other.. . Isnt

but i can see why you confuse the two quid s

[????]

You're right Sean - I can sometimes pick out the hint of an empathetic tone in The Daily Mail