Gala setting up on Peckham Rye

[DuncanW]

We live just one road away from the Common and currently can?t hear a thing.

Have been able to at other times. No big deal.

What is with all the inverse, ooh I hope you don?t die in A&E or get an overdose from taking too many tabs malarkey? That?s very unpleasant.

I?d imagine most people who work in A&E have a perspective on life that allows them not to get too worked up about something as trivial as a bit of music in the park.

[Spartacus]

johnhcollins Wrote:

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> > I'm looking forward to 20 years from now when

> Joe

> > Peckham and Funny are on here complaining that

> a

> > music festival on the Rye has kept their kids

> > awake all night and they are now too tired to

> go

> > and do their jobs.

> >

> > Assuming of course that they don't od on some

> > dodgy tabs first that is like so many people I

> > knew in my youth have.

>

> the last part of your comment is pretty over the

> top, especially when you know how much something

> like that can hurt people.

Life's gonna hurt, and if you choose to take drugs then you also choose the consequences.

No one forces you to take them so if life turns around and kicks you by giving you a reaction then frankly you were in control of your own destiny and the sad thing is it's the people left behind that get hurt the most.

[DuncanW]

That?s a pretty bleak outlook on life. Are your u sure it?s the loud music that?s keeping you from getting a good night?s sleep??

[sally buying]

You can tell the schools have broken up by the number of new additions to the forum.

[Spartacus]

funnylookingowl Wrote:

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> Spartacus Wrote:

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> > I'm looking forward to 20 years from now when

> Joe

> > Peckham and Funny are on here complaining that

> a

> > music festival on the Rye has kept their kids

> > awake all night and they are now too tired to

> go

> > and do their jobs.

> >

> > Assuming of course that they don't od on some

> > dodgy tabs first that is like so many people I

> > knew in my youth have.

>

> In 20 years time people like you who are sad

> enough to complain about a bit of noise from a

> nearby festival where thousands of people are

> having fun, in a major cosmopolitan city, will

> have started to die out or be in care homes unable

> to phone the council or even realise what music

> is. Meanwhile, assuming you have kids and you

> havent raised them in a really odd way so that

> they cannot socialise and appreciate music

> (unlikely I know), they'll be the ones at the

> music festival off their heads on 'tabs' having a

> great time. Funny how things go in circles isnt

> it?

Isn't it

My generation grew up with acid house, raves and warehouse parties and I love the fact that a lot of "your music" samples a lot of my generations music so obviously appreciation isn't the issue here.

The question really is : is there a better location in the borough that satisfies everyone ?

[DuncanW]

Which in turn was heavily indebted to samples and interpolations from the music of the generation before...

Peckham Rye Park really is as good a location as anywhere else within the borough; certainly anywhere that isn't already hosting something similar. It's a densely populated area, where else within Southwark would you suggest that doesn't have residential property nearby?

[Spartacus]

Deep in the middle of Burges park would be a good venue as few houses around the central part.

[Abe_froeman]

Can hear this now from Lordship Lane. Must be loud nearer to the action.

[yeknomyeknom]

Men peeing in all the bushes on the outskirts of the park, constantly, even though there are plentiful toilets nearby with no visible queues, is worse than the noise. Disgusting, flagrant selfishness. We?ve complained to Gala but not a lot they can do other than provide plentiful toilets.

[The Elusive Shadow]

Went Yesterday and had a brilliant time. Lovely event full of lovely people having a good time. Much needed after the last 18 months. Very lucky to have it on our door step. Was actually commenting when there how the kids these days seem to put all their litter in bins no matter how mashed they were. In my day, festival floors were like rubbish tips. Was hardly a crushed can to be seen. 10:30pm finish, hardly keeping anyone up all night. I get more noise from the local pub constantly doing weddings. Nice to have a bit of life in the area eh

[rch]

I can actually hear the music inside my house on Melbourne Grove in East Dulwich tonight. It?s not too bad inside (just sounds like a neighbourhood garden party), but it?s quite noticeable in the street outside my front door.

It must be really loud in order for the sound to travel this far away, so I called the noise team and logged it for future reference, as it must be unbearable for the residents who live nearby.

[DuncanW]

In Melbourne Grove, it?s probably something else.

It?s really not that loud.

[rch]

A Lordship Lane resident posted above that he can hear it, and I?m at the Lordship Lane end of Melbourne Grove.

I went to Camberwell Old Cemetery yesterday afternoon and it was really loud, so I recognise the style of the music.

Sounds travels in bizarre ways...

[Blah Blah]

Okay, let's be clear here. This WAS a very noisy event. It also ran for TEN hours a day, for THREE days. Previously it was two days. If it were a one day event. I wouldn't be complaining, just as I don't complain about the occasional house party that disturbs me. But THREE days? That is 30 hours of loud bass on my doorstep. It is not a laughing matter.

As for what young people have had to put up with etc, we have all had to put up with a lot over the last 18 months. Some people were working 90 hours a week dealing with waves of seriously ill people, so spare me the bs because kids can't party.

Now it appears, the same company want to lease the Bowling Green to destroy the peace and quiet of the gardens that surround it on a regular basis! Where does it stop? It is a park, not a nightclub. Are there no commercial music venues this company can rent? I despair that such a proposal is even shortlisted.

[johnhcollins]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> johnhcollins Wrote:

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> > Spartacus Wrote:

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> > > I'm looking forward to 20 years from now when

> > Joe

> > > Peckham and Funny are on here complaining

> that

> > a

> > > music festival on the Rye has kept their kids

> > > awake all night and they are now too tired to

> > go

> > > and do their jobs.

> > >

> > > Assuming of course that they don't od on some

> > > dodgy tabs first that is like so many people

> I

> > > knew in my youth have.

> >

> > the last part of your comment is pretty over

> the

> > top, especially when you know how much

> something

> > like that can hurt people.

>

> Life's gonna hurt, and if you choose to take drugs

> then you also choose the consequences.

>

> No one forces you to take them so if life turns

> around and kicks you by giving you a reaction then

> frankly you were in control of your own destiny

> and the sad thing is it's the people left behind

> that get hurt the most.

why even mention it, especially what?s happened in north london this week gone. and what are you actually on about? you come across as not only an absolutely abhorrent person but also someone who has absolutely no clue about anything. im begging you, please go outside and speak to people

[johnhcollins]

yeknomyeknom Wrote:

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> Men peeing in all the bushes on the outskirts of

> the park, constantly, even though there are

> plentiful toilets nearby with no visible queues,

> is worse than the noise. Disgusting, flagrant

> selfishness. We?ve complained to Gala but not a

> lot they can do other than provide plentiful

> toilets.

you really need a hobby or something to occupy your time

[AuntieButtons]

I live in The Gardens and I couldn?t hear it. That?s opposite Peckham Rye Park.

Sound travels in mysterious ways it would seem.

Peckham Rye Park has always been somewhat inferior to Dulwich Park and the park keepers have worked hard on making this a nice outdoor space for the local community. I dread to think what it will look like once this has all been dismantled 😏

[spark67]

Live Ashbourne and have sat out in the garden most evenings with a cuppa, and definitely not heard it, been quite quiet ... though we do have a neighbour who plays music a bit loud sometimes, whilst sitting in the garden, doesn't bother me as i quite like it and listened to it myself.

Went the the 1st year Gala opened and quite enjoyed it.

Saw lots of well behaved young people heading to the festival during the days over this weekend from Peckham rye station, all in their festival gear and looking happy, nice to see after past year and a half.

I haven't been since the 1st year as I felt really old though compared to others, just wanted to see what it was like.

I get though that people living right by it might have issues.

Mark

[first mate]

What happened to consideration goes both ways?

johnhcollins Wrote:

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> > Men peeing in all the bushes on the outskirts

> of

> > the park, constantly, even though there are

> > plentiful toilets nearby with no visible

> queues,

> > is worse than the noise. Disgusting, flagrant

> > selfishness. We?ve complained to Gala but not

> a

> > lot they can do other than provide plentiful

> > toilets.

>

> you really need a hobby or something to occupy

> your time

[Roachy]

Went to all three days and had the time of my life. After 18 months of no festivals Gala was the perfect comeback. Those complaining about noise, buy earplugs next time.

[Roachy]

Went to all three days and had the time of my life. After 18 months of no festivals Gala was the perfect comeback. Great crowd, well organised. Those complaining about noise, buy earplugs next year and then everyone?s happy.

[Adidas_guy]

I didn?t know about this event until it was too late but I?ll definitely go next year!

[Nigello]

Roachy - glad you had a good time but not glad you are dismissive of others' concerns and worries. You never know what people are experiencing in their lives and complaining about loud music (where music = thud, thud) over a weekend isn't that irrational if you are nearby, caring for someone, recovering from an illness, etc. I'd prefer it if the organisers turned it down from 11 to about 8 - nobody needs music that loud in the actual venue and those nearby will benefit and at least feel that the organisers are taking their concerns on board. Win win!

[Lebanums]

The park is for everyone, and we are a community. All of us older ones have been partying in our time without a care for anyone else. Let's put this in perspective, it was 3 days or 30 hours of party, as previously said, that's 362 days of peace and quiet, and it finished at 10, so it was not keeping anyone up in the evening, sorry for those on shifts. Many people have had works done to their home during lockdown, which lasted way more than 3 days. I'm sure we were all more accommodating for our neighbours...

The partygoers were respectful. I get some comments about weeing & bottles, but there have been many groups hanging around drinking in Sexby gardens for months with their nicked Borris bikes, leaving their bottles on the ground, so Gala cannot be held responsible for one or two ignorant individuals.

Regarding the state of the grass, the grass at the entrance of Dunstans has disappeared, but this has been like this since lockdown began, so can't all be blamed on the festival. The site will repair itself as it has done in the past, and I'm sure I will find you all on here next year with the same complaints. So until then I bid you goodbye.

[Frenchy]

Nigello Wrote:

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nobody needs music that loud in the actual venue

On this specific point, yes they do. If it's not loud enough or doesn't have the right frequencies; it doesn't do the job. That's why good nightclubs spend so much effort on their soundsystem. Sound in the open air is completely different science. On both scores though, the best systems are engineered to feel loud and enveloping and yet still enable you to carry on a person standing next to you (believe it or not!)

On wider note, the majority of the people at this festival have not only had a crap year, they will now have to endure a substantially 'reduced' future because, put bluntly, (mostly) people at the start of their lives will be picking up the tab that has helped save (mostly) people at the other end of their lives - and they'll be picking it up for years, possibly decades to come.

I appreciate it's not an act of selflessness (because most of them don't know it yet) - but that's how it's going to be for them. For that reason alone, I do not begrudge them a few days letting themselves go a bit (ok, 'a lot').

I have not seen anything worse than a 'oh well, c'est la vie' shrug from any neighbour, anyone out and about, anyone on our street whatsapp thread (and we live pretty close). I suspect the people who a rabidly opposed to this are actually in the minority.