DulwichDeviant Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 DELETED Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lameduck Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 they have said this morning on news24 that he was not the horrid chapportrayed by shakespeare and history. I dont suppose we will ever know the truth. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The magic of archaeology.."We found this skull fragment - and extrapolating from this - here is an artist's impression of working bronze-age hill fort." Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lameduck Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 i too was taught by history, that he had murdered the 2 boys,but there is now some thought he was much maligned.who knows? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Huguenot Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The wisdom of Yoda, no less! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computedshorty Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I think it is him, his car rotted away but his driving licence was in his pocket.You can read he holds a group twenty nine licence Chariots of fire. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Richard III may have been horrid and murdered the two little boys, but the Tudors who usurped him had an even more dubious claim to the throne so persisted in painting Richard as the devil incarnate (Shakespeare, I'm looking at you). There's no reason to think that he was any more or less bloodthirsty or ruthless than any other monarch at around that time.Great piece of archaeology though... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maxxi Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The pawn ticket confirmed it was him: "Owed - one Kingdom in exchange for one horse (not delivered)" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PeckhamRose Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I saw the entire Live news broadcast from Leicester University, where about six professors in their field - archeology, forensics, geneology, genes, armoury and others all delivered their own explanation of how they came to the conclusions they did. It was most moving, as they also thanked all those who had contributed their knowledge (and their DNA in the case of the relatives!) Then the head of Leicester University announced with pride that Leicester Uni was the one who had discovered DNA and now this, ie. GIVE US MORE MONEY! It was interrupted by the news of Huhne (who I hope goes to prison), then back to the news conference in Leicester.Back to the news anchors on BBCNews24 and one said, "Well they strung that out, didn't they!" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgutsell Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Hiya allYer all victims of Shakespearean propaganda. D'ya think old willy would write a play that P****d off the ruler of that time? No. Richie the 3rd was an OK ruler. He just didn't have a big enough army. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGolden Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If the change in the law of primogeniture had happened a few hundred years ago Henry Tudor's claim to the throne would have seemed less dubious. I wonder though - where will they bury Richard III? Pesumably Leicester's primary Roman Catholic Church has a very strong claim. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgley Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I am not convinced that he was as white as snow, what happen to his nephews who murdered them? if he did not physically kill them I think he knew about it. As for his relatives who think that Richard 111 was demonised by Shakespeare may have point. But the fact remains there are unanswered question about this point in history. I also find relatives of infamous people always try to justify their relatives behaviour i.e.???.. Captain Blythe as an example. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Bligh Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Bligh is buried in a church yard in Alverstoke, Gosport, lovely little graveyard. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLogCo Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Isn't "Richard the Third" Cockney rhyming slang for....erm ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drusky Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Richard iii is a great story, even without Shakespeare's version. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimby Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Quite Common Richard the thirds in car parks! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28764-richard-iii-its-official/#findComment-613795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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