New first class railway carriages for the East Dulwich to London Bridge Line

[edhistory]

Publicity photo.

John K

[Lowlander]

They already is first class accomodation on some trains - the 0749 to London Bridge is one - although to be fair it's declassified. These are the Wimbledon services.

[picapica]

The locomotive and carriages were designed by William Stroudley of the London, Brighton & South Coast Railway.

Only the fourth and fifth carriages are First Class. The rest are Seconds, Thirds and Brake thirds.

The Thirds were pretty grim with wooden bench seats and half-height partitions.

A similar First class carriage has been splendidly restored by the Bluebell Railway in Sussex with other examples currently being painstakingly rebuilt (almost from scratch) at their Carriage and Wagon works at Horsted Keynes. Well worth a visit and very soon they hope to re-connect with Network Rail at East Grinstead.

[edhistory]

Do you have a date for the introduction of this fixed carriage set on our line?

John K

[neilson99]

I read today that Southern are introducing sleeper carriages next month given the length of delays between Peckham Rye and London Bridge.

[Sue]

neilson99 Wrote:

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> I read today that Southern are introducing sleeper

> carriages next month given the length of delays

> between Peckham Rye and London Bridge.

xxxxx

:))

[picapica]

edhistory Wrote:

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> Do you have a date for the introduction of this

> fixed carriage set on our line?

>

> John K

1872/3 ish

[edhistory]

Been digging for a terminus post quem.

Brighton was completed on 10 March 1878.

John K

[picapica]

edhistory Wrote:

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> Been digging for a terminus post quem.

>

> Brighton was completed on 10 March 1878.

>

> John K

Not sure what you mean.

My Latin is a bit rusty but if you're looking for a 'limit after which' Brighton station was built in 1840 - the main line to London Bridge opening shortly after. Its platforms were extended and the magnificent overall roof added in 1882/3.

East Dulwich station (then named 'Champion Hill')opened in 1868.

Stroudley started constructing the 4 wheel carriages depicted in 1872 for the suburban lines and the lightly-laid South London Line.

[edhistory]

Publicity photo for introduction of carriages to south London is headed by A1 Brighton.

Brighton ex-works 10 March 1878.

Therefore carriages not introduced here before that date.

Unless the publicity photo is mis-identified.

John K