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Generally I've found it to be reasonably reliable, of course it does have blips and if you are unfortunate to get caught up in one of these it can result in longer wait times, sometimes one is cut out and it can add an additional 12-15 minute wait.


What I am noticing is a level of complacency with people beginning not to bother to wear a face covering, either when boarding or throughout their journey. Please be considerate and wear a face covering on public transport, it protects both yourself and those around you, especially with the increase in positive cases nationally.


richard tudor Wrote:

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> Waited for the P13 towards Streatham this morning

> none came but 3 came one behind the other towards

> New Cross.

>

> Dont think this is reliable.

>

> Is there a problem around the East Dulwich area.

Bus journeys are definitely taking longer.


The 185 is often stuck in traffic between the oval and vauxhall bus station since the cycle lane ( hardly used) was created.


Also the Boris Johnson buses take longer than other buses because the rear door on them seems to have some kind of opening and closing delay.

The key to the 185 is the single lane on Camberwell New Road. If the traffic is free there, ie before rush hour/school opening (Sacred Heart) and there is nobody blocking the subsequent bus lane is wizzes down. The cycle lane at the Oval is irrelevant, it is the traffic around Vauxhall Bridge which is the key determinant there. The return journey is a pain as you have to go round Vauxhall bus station.

flippit Wrote:

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> Getting to and from work is taking much longer

> these days due to greater congestion arising from

> increased traffic on the main routes. This

> displacement is caused by the road closures

> established by London Transport and Southwark

> Council.

>

Buses have always been slow - they did not start being slow with LTNs. Traveling by bus in London has never been anything but a painstaking experience. I have spent a huge amount of my life sitting on a bus.


And as you state - it is to do with traffic. Concern over whether the bus times have increased from long to a bit longer is ignoring the fundamental issue which is that there are far too many cars on the road.


A study looking into road reallocation (70 case studies) concluded that over time traffic reduces to below initial levels (it evaporates). A bit of extra short-term congestion may reduce traffic in the long term, with driving becoming a less attractive proposition - especially for short journeys.


If we want faster buses - then reducing traffic (and ensuring bus lanes are unblocked as previously pointed out) is the way to go about it.

Although this doesn?t affect the speed of buses, I only ever travel on a bus when I really have no other option. This is because of the unpleasant behaviour of other passengers.


Some put their feet on seats, some drop litter, others talk very loudly on their phones, some are so rude to the drivers...

I quite like long bus journeys as it gives me the chance to meditate, look out of the window, eves drop and catch up on reading. And I always get a seat.


Almost wrote 'mediate' there, but some would think that was out of character.


I don't like it when the 185 stops in Camberwell to 'even out the service' (or words to that effect) and I am sure it must be Southwark's doing.

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