Eating out in ED

[DaveR]

Back on topic, and in no particular order, my favourite places to eat out in ED and surrounds:

Silk Road, Koz, the Palmerston, the cafe next to the shoe shop, Hong Kong City, Ganapati, Il Mirto, Homemade.

Other food highlights:

Blackbird bakery (I've never had anything that wasn't really good), the banh mi guy on North X Rd, Mootown, and William Rose pork pies.

[Huguenot]

Aha! To help us all out, the new defamation bill is due to pass shortly, it's at the final stages in the House of Lords.

Should be complete in the next couple of months: http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2012-13/defamation.html

Then we shall be able to refer to statute. Lucky us.

[Huguenot]

Here is the section that would defend the EDF should an irritable restarauter attempt to sue it for the comments made by a user: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/lbill/2012-2013/0075/lbill_2012-20130075_en_2.htm#pb2-l1g5

It's pretty clear the EDF would be required to identify the user in question.

It's also clear that having moderators does not defeat the defense the EDF may make.

However other action the EDF should take (like removing the post in question) is not stated - it is instead referred to as complying with 'regulations' that can be made by the Secretary of State. I await with baited breath to discover what these may be.

It would be odd if simply the act of complaining were sufficient for a post to be removed - there would have to be some greater test than that.

[StraferJack]

anyone else lost the will to "eat out in east dulwich" yet?

DaveR tried to get back on topic and yet...

Given that most people's tastes are different enough, asking for "good places" without context is going to lead to some dissapointments

Most of the places people have mentioned already merit inclusion, but anyone who has anything good to say about food at the Crown & Greyhound or Plough shows the problem with this kind of thing

(do go to those pubs by the way - I like them. Just don't eat in them)

then again, if you say something like "before we moved here we lived in Marleybone and just loved the prince regent" then you wil lbe more than happy with the food in those pubs

[DaveR]

"I'm confused as to what your motivation might be to try and pick a rather pointless and arcane fight?"

H, I'm entirely accustomed to you making all manner of confident claims, patronising a variety of people at will, and generally assuming an air of knowing authority on whatever subject takes your fancy. As I've said before, it's actually quite entertaining. On this occasion, you said to whoever the other poster was:

"This isn't a debate between you and me, it's simply the law."

and you were completely wrong about what the law is. I was just pointing that out. Then you made some kind of odd reference to references, and said "that's not the law, it's just the opinion of the court" so I thought for clarity it was worth repeating that (and this isn't complicated) you just got it wrong. I don't see any other issue here.

[Huguenot]

Aha that's it - you were looking for an opportunity for a personal attack on me because of a personality clash!

Now I understand ;-)

You weren't actually trying to add value to the conversation, clarity to the debate or guidance to the issue (because you didn't actually disagree with my core point), you were just 'having a go'.

Your vehicle for this was the highly volatile interpretations that make up common law. You will of course find many terms used in judgements that refer to libel over the last 200 years that use different words, so well done you!

Well, I'm glad we cleared that up!

[camberwell70]

ifnobodyspeaks Wrote:

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> Zeret kitchen is fab! Ethiopean food, and the

> owner is lovely, and will explain what everything

> is and how it should (traditionally) be eaten

> without making you feel stupid. Its on Walworth

> road, just next to a number 12 bus stop (can't

> remember which one, I think it's the first one

> after camberwell green)

Camberwell Road (not Walworth Road) at the junction with Wyndham Road behind the old Castle pub.

[Sue]

StraferJack Wrote:

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>

> Most of the places people have mentioned already

> merit inclusion, but anyone who has anything good

> to say about food at the Crown & Greyhound or

> Plough shows the problem with this kind of thing

>

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The Crown and Greyhound has a new manager who has brought a new chef with him, as from a few months back.

I agree the food there used to be absolutely dire (I once had one of the worst meals of my life there) but apparently it is now good.

Haven't tried it myself yet so I can't say.

[StraferJack]

Sue

There are no chefs at Mitchell and butler Pubs. They are sent the food and meals from central warehouse and instructed on exactly how to heat up and present on the plate

If you felt you wanted to be the chef there, you wouldn't be able to cook anything you wanted to.

[StraferJack]

Crown and greyhound menu

http://www.thecrownandgreyhound.co.uk/pdf/specialmenus/thecrownandgreyhounddulwich-dn12repodailymenu-20130201.pdf

Plough menu

http://www.theploughdulwich.co.uk/pdf/specialmenus/theploughdulwich-dn12retrodailymenu-20130201.pdf

Chef is redundant. New "person to blame when customers complain about the food" would be more accurate

Same goes for youngs pubs like the clock house.

[Cassius]

Well just finding out about Zeret Kitchen means that this thread has validity to me. Although this subject has been done to death, there are always new forumites, always new restaurants and always new chefs/owners/menus - so it is worth revisiting every now and then.

[????]

Restaurants change etc I think this type of thread needs refreshing.

It's the "What does ED lack?" type threads that get an old timer such as meself rolling my eyes in bahhumbug fashion

[Sue]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Crown and greyhound menu

>

> http://www.thecrownandgreyhound.co.uk/pdf/specialm

> enus/thecrownandgreyhounddulwich-dn12repodailymenu

> -20130201.pdf

>

>

> Plough menu

>

>

> http://www.theploughdulwich.co.uk/pdf/specialmenus

> /theploughdulwich-dn12retrodailymenu-20130201.pdf

>

>

> Chef is redundant. New "person to blame when

> customers complain about the food" would be more

> accurate

>

> Same goes for youngs pubs like the clock house.

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Fair enough.

Haven't been to the Plough for years so I have no idea what their menu is like now.

All I know is that the new manager at the Dog, Jake, is young and enthusiastic and keen to do new things there (like live music). He told me that he had brought in a new chef. I haven't eaten there.

If said chef is any good but isn't actually going to be able to do his own thing there food-wise then I imagine he won't stay long.

But whatever the food is like, it can't possibly be worse than the appalling "Sunday roast" I had there some years back where the peas were like bullets and the "roast" potatoes were made to look roast by some sort of food colouring. It looked lovely - just tasted absolutely vile.

[ellieaness]

Being a veggie I actually thought the roast at The Crown and Greyhound was good! At least in comparison to most ED ones but then it was probably a nut roast out of a packet.

Best reasonably priced pub roast I've had in London, perhaps ever, is at a pub in Hackney called the Kenton. Delish and used to be under a tenner.

Bigges food disappointment has been Franklins, rated very highly but I find them quite meaty (husband loves it) and their veggie options a bit uninspired.

[craigyboy71]

astrid83 Wrote:

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> Best coffee and the friendliest staff in ED;

> Homemade on Barry Road. Also, their pancakes are

> to die for.

Hmmm.... not always so friendly from my experience. The young staff can be mean and moody! Also, frustratingly it keeps closing early e.g. closed on a Saturday when usually closes at 5pm. On a positive the food and coffee is good though!

[pearcesa]

I'm really disappointed with Le Chandelier, after going there for many many years for brunch and tea and cake we went to go in with our pram and were immediately told that they were fully booked and couldn't accomodate us. As we left, other people arrived and were seated immediately.

Why is it for years they are happy to accept our money and as soon as we try and go in with (a sleeping) baby in a pram we are refused?

Out of principle we won't be going there again, but wish we hadn't spent so much in there over the years.

On a more positive note, we ended up in the Blue Brick Cafe, great coffee and amazing carrot cake and most welcoming to families even though it was packed and not the largest cafe in East Dulwich.

[Alan Medic]

I suppose if they let in one pram they will have to let them all in.Should make it a policy though so there is no confusion. A sleeping baby can wake up at any time.I've done my time as a parent of a baby and wouldn't have wanted to be in a place where a baby might not be appreciated. I wouldn't take it personally. They are running a business.

[Worker]

This is par for the course at Le C. My understanding is that once certain buggy-friendly tables are occupied, then no more are allowed in. Their choice of course, but it puts me off going there with my son even if they have room, simply because I feel just a touch unwelcome. I'll be back in 18 years!

[traveller1]

I will no longer go to Le C either as was turned away with my aunt and two girls (8 and 10) because the only seats were near the front of the cafe. As there are lots of other choices around East Dulwich, I see no point in going back.

[Cora]

I wonder if there could be health and safety issues though...if they do let some in in areas that don't block entrances and exits and then on the other tables there is not much room around them. But it would make more sense to explain it thus...

[Sue]

traveller1 Wrote:

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> I will no longer go to Le C either as was turned

> away with my aunt and two girls (8 and 10) because

> the only seats were near the front of the cafe. As

> there are lots of other choices around East

> Dulwich, I see no point in going back.

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But 8 and 10 is quite old, surely - children that age are unlikely to disturb others?

Do they not like children around at all then, or not where they can be seen from the street?

Where do they draw the line?

[keane]

I had the same experience ar la Chandalier - went there with my 8 year old son - for a treat & I wanted to introduce him to the concept of afternoon tea - he was smartly dressed and well behaved - we wanted to sit in 2 armchairs at the front that were vacant but were told we were only allowed in the back. I won't be going back.

[edcam]

ellieaness Wrote:

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>> Bigges food disappointment has been Franklins,

> rated very highly but I find them quite meaty

> (husband loves it) and their veggie options a bit

> uninspired.

But to be fair, Franklin's isn't exactly touted as a vegetarian-friendly place. I'd rather they specialise than try to please everyone (and I speak as a former strict vegetarian.)

[the-e-dealer]

Are we allowed to mention L*** C** again I'm sure I read earlier we cant.

Franklin's could easily do some decent vegetarian options quite easily but sadly they are like Paris was 40 years ago. Now many Parisian restaurants have a special veggie menu. I always have the Welsh Rabbit.

[Townleygreen]

not rabbit, but rarebit, TED!