LTN: "stop the LTN congestion" campaign

[Wil72]

In todays Sunday Times apparently;

'Southwark levied ?2.5 million of camera fines in three months from 2 schemes- the 1 in Dulwich Village generated 22,424 fines in 7 weeks. These are generally ?130 each or half that if paid within 14 days'

Does anyone actually still believe that these LTN's, road closures, cameras & parking bays/meters are for anything other than making money for Southwark council?!

Are we going to let them carry on treating us residents like idiots?

Put up not anti Road Closure poster, fill in the consultation & get involved otherwise we will all be accepting this nonsense

[Metallic]

There are some estate agent style going up. Let's see how the phantom-tearer-downer seen doing it the other night, has trouble defacing them, that is vandalism.

[heartblock]

Well done Droid!

[dulwicheye1]

{Great, every one on display counts.

The deal is ?5 per sign, so you probably need two so you get one facing each way to the traffic and ?5 for the pole if you need one.

Please PM with your phone number and we can discuss collection/delivery.

David}

SO YOUR A MONEY MAKING MACHINE TOO. Great.

[DuncanW]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> mr whyte Wrote:

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> > Droid - better make sure you check your slogans

> > with the thought police on this forum first.

> Make

> > sure your not using offensive words like

> "matter"

> > or "all"... ;)

>

>

> No matter how hard you try, and how genuine your

> intentions, someone on here will find a way to

> extrapolate what you have specified in your poster

> as either racist, sexist, anti-environmental, or

> drugs related!

YAWN... it doesn't normally take much to bring the old "I'm not racist, but..." gang out to play - in this case absolutely no-one made any comment of this nature whatsoever, but still here we are.

It's worth remembering that the Dulwich Alliance were themselves quick to recognise that their BLM appropriating posters did cause offence and quite rightly removed them.

[northernmonkey]

So each sign is costing ?15 - excellent! I guess, like the fines, its totally optional so up to people what they want to spend their cash on.

kntrade2012 Wrote:

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> {Great, every one on display counts.

>

> The deal is ?5 per sign, so you probably need two

> so you get one facing each way to the traffic and

> ?5 for the pole if you need one.

>

> Please PM with your phone number and we can

> discuss collection/delivery.

>

> David}

>

> SO YOUR A MONEY MAKING MACHINE TOO. Great.

[Cora]

Is there somewhere local we could pick up posters? Maybe a local business could have some on Lordship Lane?

[Droid]

kmtrade wrote..

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> SO YOUR A MONEY MAKING MACHINE TOO. Great.

@kntrade,

I find it very sad that you have taken such a cynical stance.

We are actually subsidising the cost of the signs. Our actual cost is ?5.40 each. They are made by Xpress signs in Sydenham.

I am quite prepared to show the invoice to you and anyone who wants to view it but should you be in doubt, ask any supplier for a quotation for the following:

1. Correx sign 5mm thick.

2. Size 705mm x 705mm

3. Two colour print.

4. Qty = 50

5. Inclusive of delivery.

If you come up with a better price, let us know.

This is a community project and not a profit-orientated venture. In addition, the make up of the signs/poles and their installation is being done free of charge. To make the poles secure and vandal-proof, they have to be securely fixed and this is most often to brick/concrete walls which requires a fair amount of time and effort.

So kindly spare us cynicism. It is unjustified and inappropriate.

kntrade2012 Wrote:

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> {Great, every one on display counts.

>

> The deal is ?5 per sign, so you probably need two

> so you get one facing each way to the traffic and

> ?5 for the pole if you need one.

>

> Please PM with your phone number and we can

> discuss collection/delivery.

>

> David}

>

> SO YOUR A MONEY MAKING MACHINE TOO. Great.

[jazzer]

Signs such as these are not cheap, from my previous experience having dealt with xpress signs in the past, they are really good quality and I have to say at ?5 a sign that's a good price.

[Droid]

Excellent suggestion about the shops on LL.

So far we have been door-knocking on EDG only as we are EDG residents primarily. It's a long street and it takes time to visit and discuss matters!

We would be delighted if some of the shops displayed our signs because I understand many are suffering badly.

If you or they want to obtain signs, please PM me a phone number and we can discuss. We can also deliver depending on where they are needed..

These road closures are so unfair, unjustified and damaging to many that we will do anything we can to assist other with expressing their views.

Please consider saving the attached photo on your phone and showing it to others who may want to help the cause.

Cora Wrote:

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> Is there somewhere local we could pick up posters?

> Maybe a local business could have some on Lordship

> Lane?

[Earl Aelfheah]

Another thread? You couldn?t have just added your thoughts to the 10 or so existing ones?

[Earl Aelfheah]

Btw, making it at easy as possible to drive around London by opposing any restrictions on motor vehicles, is an odd way to reduce emissions.

[KidKruger]

I don?t think fixing the traffic issues is that binary, however obvious and point-scorey the slogan may be.

[Earl Aelfheah]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> I don?t think fixing the traffic issues is that

> binary, however obvious and point-scorey the

> slogan may be.

slogans like 'stop the LTN Congestion' or 'all streets matter' you mean?

[KidKruger]

Nope

I meant I don?t think fixing the traffic issues is that binary, however obvious and point-scorey the slogan may be.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Which slogan?

[Earl Aelfheah]

It's just that this thread is about actual signs, covered in slogans, which you seem to be in favour of.