the-e-dealer Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Just heard this LBC . Lock up your Daughters! And everything else. This is just terrible news but I think we could tell it was getting bad. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southeast Twenty Stu Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 top 10? in UK? in London? In Southwark? in postcodes beginning with SE2? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 can't find any source - heres one for 2012 I found - SE-anywhere not includedhttp://www.onlinelockandsafecentre.co.uk/news/top-10-most-burgled-addresses.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kford Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267992/Revealed-UKs-burglary-black-spots-Areas-Leeds-Bradford-identified-risk-insurance-companies.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_pete Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 In the UK - see here - SE22 is number 9.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-top-20-burglary-hotspots-8466447.htmlHowever last year SE22 wasn't even in the top 20 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/top-20-burglary-insurance-claims-673534 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 up from 199 I seewhen they recount again next year I expect most places will have changed - in the top 200 is there much of a spread in claims/1000 numbers?Any tiny shift could see your rocket or plummet those charts Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpsaucey Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Quick, quick - best move across the park to SE15.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggers Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 yup no mention of Peckers! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimby Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 So we shouldn't worry because its a statistic? Well that's a relief! Are you 100% sure of that?But I dont quite see how the Daily Mail can dub SE22 as dangerous because we claim on insurance. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 And the reason it's so low in Swansea is that no one has anything to steal! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimby Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The Police monthly crime map doesnt look much better :-(Month Crimes RateDecember 2012 15 9.70November 2012 6 3.88Crime in this area is up Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimby Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 But Hey Peckham Rye Ward - Also Se22 looks good!Sub Ward (E01004015)Your Ward: Peckham RyeYour Borough: Southwark Crime rate is Average Southwark homepage Peckham Rye Safer Neighbourhoods teamTotal notifiable offencesMonth Crimes RateDecember 2012 9 5.99November 2012 9 5.99 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 nimbycan you provide the monthly numbers going back 1/2/3 years - then we'll have a better idea of crime trends Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimby Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Looking further at the Met Map Its the Bottom End of Barry that is the Crimespot. Goose Green Low Crime. ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimby Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The Major problem with this top 20 statistic is its notified crime and insured crime. We have no idea from this statistic whether the 'high crime' areas have people who are more likely to be insured and more likely to notify. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5,file=76732so from the police stats for the last 24 monthssource data is here:http://maps.met.police.uk/datatables/wards.xlsdoesn't look like crime is notably "up!!!" to me Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Don't panic...don't panic....DON'T PANIC Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw74 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's taken from people who have applied for insurance through 1 comparison site and declared that they have claimed on insurance for a burglary. Not very representative I think and just a scare making headline. Does not reflect actual crime figures. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 WE had better all not insure our homes for a year to get off the list! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 oops Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
polla2256 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'd rather get a Tibetan mastiff compete with pet and liability insurance. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimling Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 surely that just means that brixotn and peckham with their sticky fingers are coming into dulwich to commit their crimes?were surrounded by the worst, deprived areas in south london... suppose this is now a good excuse for the insurance companies to up our premiums? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Perhaps it just means there are more people in ED making fraudulent claims...?*hurries off to make claim before ins. companies cotton on Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkE Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Doesn't pass the smell test. The top 20 contains 11 postcode areas from Leeds/Bradford/Hull and 8 from London (full list below). Among the London postcode areas, at least two of these don't fit - SW12 and SE22.Let's look at the text of the article:"MoneySupermarket.com analysed 3.49 million applications for home insurance quotes made between December 2011 and the end of November 2012. They looked at the number of users who said they had made a claim for burglary at their current address in the past two years."So, these are actually based upon claims made across a three year period (December 2009 to November 2012). Couple that information with the stats sourced further up this thread, as well as your instincts about the levels of burglary in the area at that time, and something doesn't appear to be correct. There's an easy inference here that there is a spurious factor affecting those results (without the data, the answer as to what it is can be anyone's guess). Remember firstly that you have to have insurance in order to claim on it. There are no clues in the article as to the incidence of insurance bought in these postcodes, but from career experience I can tell you that deprived areas will always have lower incidence of cover. The higher the incidence of cover, the more opportunities there are to claim.As for those worried about their claims rising as a result - fear not. This is an article sponsored by a website, who conducted their own research. Insurance companies don't use those kinds of source to determine their premiums, they have far more sophisticated (and more often internal) methods for doing so. The full list, clustered by area:Leeds/Bradford1 LS13 Leeds 2 BD12 Bradford 7 LS18 Leeds 10 LS28 Leeds 12 HU6 Hull13 BD10 Bradford14 BD17 Bradford 15 LS25 Leeds17 BD18 Bradford 19 LS12 Leeds20 BD6 Bradford London3 N12 North Finchley, north London5 RM3 Romford 6 SW12 Balham, south London8 UB3 Hayes, west London9 SE22 East Dulwich, south east London 11 IG2 Ilford, east London 16 TW12 Hampton, south west London 18 SW16 Streatham, south London Manchester4 M30 Manchester Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/28404-e-dulwich-in-top-10-for-burglary/#findComment-610827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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