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Absolutely! Echoing other posts here - I feel a real sense of community, a real connection with new people and a far more positive attitude. I used to be quite suspicious of meeting new people - always fearing that I would come across badly. I also think this forum has helped me realise that I can say quite serious stuff and be taken seriously - before I always thought I came across a bit fluffy.


And I now use a mooncup! Which was seriously life-changing! Hoorah for CWALD for sharing that advice last year.

I now deliberately shop for as much as I can in Lordship Lane or the immediate surrounding area. I, usually, use a canvas bag for shopping not plastic bags. I have used and supported businesses promoted by the forum.


Like others I wonder whether I am speaking to, sitting next to, passing in the street, drinking / eating next to or buying goods from EDF"ers" - who's going to make a discreet lapel badge for us?

Marmora Man has been to a couple of drinks BB and a splendid fellow he is (he was definitely at the FHT one - but if I recall you arrived later and he may have left earlier)


Moos - this secret handshake - even if we did have one, non forumites are going to be severely non-plussed by the outbreak of handshaking generally, surely?

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> Have you changed anything you do or the way you

> think as a result of anything on this forum?

>

> A small example occurred to me today as I got off

> the bus and picked up all of my newspaper - I used

> to leave the sports section and anything else I

> was finished for "others to read" but having been

> picked up on by (I think) Alan Dale and looking at

> the general mess on buses anyway I started to

> collect and take everything with me - dunno if

> that's any better or not but I wouldn't have

> changed my behaviour if it wasn't for discussion

> on here

>

> Anyone else got any (and better) examples?



no changes here, I still look the same crap I looked before I joined.

But I noticed that the free papers I used to read on the bus have disappeared for quite some time.

I'm much less informed now that I used to be before I joined this forum,

  • 3 weeks later...

Bellenden Belle wrote:-

We are, of course, all very beautiful...


and modest and like Uriah Heap extremely humble;-)


It has changed my psychological behaviour in that I now like the computer which for 15 years I have had a negative feeling about, always waiting for it to freeze up or lose important data, but now I have a good chance of laughing out loud when I drop in to forumising.

I think through my arguements a lot more.


I'd argue black was white if I was having a ruff day and felt like a barney, but this forum is made up of people who know a lot more about... well, most things, really... and can put me on my arse then tear me into tiny pieces if I haven't really thought through my position.


I like that, it makes me far less aggressive and more deliberate/moderate.


So thank you, posters-all. :)

Bellenden Belle Wrote:

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> And I now use a mooncup! Which was seriously

> life-changing! Hoorah for CWALD for sharing that

> advice last year.



BB, if it's not too personal a question, how did you know which size to buy? Have often looked and wondered about that.


I am approximately 8% less productive at work. I do smile more at people in the street (but only ED environs) and I often see people in bars whom I immediately assume must be a particular forumite. I have visited the cafe on Peckham Rye, but realised my horrible mistake in being hideously hung over and not having children. I have developed secret crushes on certain forumites.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> The most distressing result of this forum is that

> I no longer hoik a coat over me jimjams and dawdle

> up L.Lane. I might bump into someone I know now!


OMG I still do that all the time. Now I feel inadequate.

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