falcao Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Twenty years to pay for the back extension??? That's stretching it a bit! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamityKel Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I dunno asset... the price of booze is on the up... ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 What were the grounds for refusing permission for the extension? Why are Black Cherry so sure that having the extension will make such a difference to their bottom line?Personally I couldn't care less if they closeNow Inside 72, that's another matter..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamityKel Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 *Directs DaveR over to the Inside 72 thread* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikese22 Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 A few suggestions that might help perk up the business:extend the brilliant weekend brunch menu beyond the ridiculously early finish of 1pm (some people like to lie in and ease themselves into the weekend)sell croissants / pain au chocolat with brunch menu - compete with Nero, the coffee's much better at Black Cherry anywayliven up the tired lunch / evening menus that don't seem to have changed in ages and don't have any light snacky items on themextend the evening food service for another hour or sosell crispsfix the wifi, which is often not workingditch the poorly made day-glo cocktails and train the staff to make the original cocktails properly (bring back Jamie - the only one who could make them properly please....!)improve the service - most of the waitresses are really friendly, but can be a bit scatty - they don't write orders down, forget side dishes, drinks, bills etc..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Christ ! if it was the White Cherry some of those councillors may act on it ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 mikese22 - "ana mhaith" for the practical and downright sensible suggestionsAllfornun - just stop it will you?for the Columbo reference alone, Snorky wins bonus points (sorry katy)I'm all FOR t'Black Cherry (ahem, I believe I was their first ever customer) but I am worried if their business plan is dependent on the outside area. That has been a non-starter from the get go and even if I agree with the business that locals are being pernickety (which I do) I'm not sure local councilors will do much to aid the situationI will write and support the Cherry - but there must be more to it than "needing the extra spaces out back" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawdy-nan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I'm not sure that complaining about having a beer garden appear outside your window without planning permission is exactly being "pernickity".I like Black Cherry and would be sorry to see it close. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 There are other ways this bar can survive... the family own the freehold on the building don't they? So no rent... what are the other huge over heads in running a bar? The biggest is staff... Now why do Black Cherry always have 3 or 4 people doing a job that 1 could do. Fewer, better trained and more motivated staff is what they need. A tightening up of service and an improvement in food (sorry, i know some of you like it). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Mikese22 - Jamie is back - well he was there on Saturday (been busy with college work I believe).The story with the garden does go back to when it opened, when you could sit out there until 9.00, then even that stopped, due to complaints about the noise, so I find it hard to believe that not having this area, which really they've never had, would mean that they have to close. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I'm confused, when I read the leaflet they'd put on a table a while ago, I understood that they just wanted to have a "garden" area out back for open air drinking and smoking. They were saying it wasn't fair, as they were the only ones to have been refused this (to be fair, The Bishop has it, and that's only a couple of doors down).I didn't realise from this leaflet that they had actually planned to extend the building out back... Or am I missing the point here?RE: Jamie, he is indeed back, but he's in his final year of his studies, so don't expect this to be long term. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Lt. Columbo is very interested in motive hereWhat would cause an unconnected citizen to embrace this issue with such gusto and go so far as to post us email addresses for councillors and a link to an online petition ?this must be a very very very special drinking establishment to have such dogged customer loyalty* buttons up filthy mac & drives off in battered grey car with dog hanging out of the window* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Actually I know many people who would go to such lengths for their local. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I would, but I can't see the Cherry being anyone's "local" in that way... I could be quite wrong, but I have to admit the original post didn't feel particularly genuine to me either.However, genuine or not, I like the Cherry, which is more than can be said for most places down Lordship Lane *spits in the general direction of the bishop*, so hope they're okay. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scor46 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 You could write a comedy script just using the posts from this thread!! Katy - I will sign the petition but I would like the situation clarifed first. Probably going to have a wander down there tonight to see what all the fuss is about.Any excuse eh!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 to reiterate - I have no beef with the Cherry & its punters at all - Ive been in a handful of times, had a bit of food, but have no great loyalty or view on the place either way - another non memorable / well aimed demographic niche drinking/ food lite establishment in ED - so its hardly uniqueHyperbole about the evil marxist council stakhonvites set to sneeringly shut the place down and cast its weeping destitute staff onto the mean streets of SE22 because of a clerical interpretation would seem to wide of the markHijacking/ starting a thread to promote a possibly hidden agenda may not be a criminal offence, but is most definately a moral oneclarify the situation Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scor46 Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Wow! Snorky..Would hate to meet you in a dark alley. You should run for office - Mayors job is coming up soon.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I'm with Snorky. The original thread smelt fishy. Hope it doesn't close, though. Nero Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macroban Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 > ... the family own the freehold on the building don't they? So no rent... But maybe a mortgage or bank loan. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Come on people, what's with the paranoia? Admin is pretty good at spotting this sort of thing whether self promotion or mud slinging (see headnizm thread). I'm pretty certain Katy is who she said she is. Do we have to alienate every new poster who finds a reason to break beyond the lurk? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Yeah I'm with you MP. One would think there were something sinister going on. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Im not trying to denounce anyone and certainly not trying to alienate new posters anyway, the deed is done and the BC has its publicity now, whether it was planned or not Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Is it not perfectly possible to both:a) not want Black Cherry to closeb) accept that BC wants to get the locals on side - and that a timely thread posted on the forum from a relative unknown who just happens to have to hand all the relevant emails of the people supporters ought be lobbying - might be the best way of doing so?(Columbo accent) "And theres just one more thing that's botherin' me..." Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cherry Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Dear Forumites,Hello, Hello, Hello,My name is Angela and I am the owner of Black Cherry. I just want to let you know I did not write the original post nor ask anyone to do it on our behalf. There is a planning issue which we hope will be resolved on the 3rd April. I am happy to update everyone when I know more. Best wishes.Kind regardsAngela x Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Angela, could you just clarify exactly what you guys are hoping to do with the place and what the problem is, as there seems to be a bit of confusion (at least in my little brain). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/2820-black-cherry-may-have-to-close/page/2/#findComment-86950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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