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Im going to say teachers.


Right up front....Im in no way debating that that many teachers are fantastic and work their socks off in a tough job, with many pressures....


....but don't we all know it....


Open any daily newspaper, and invariably they'll be an article somewhere with a teacher or teachers union bemoaning one thing or another....or chat to a friend who's a teacher and they'll often tell you how tough they have it...


Other professions in the shortlist would be nurses and black-cab drivers....anyone else?

Farmers are the Worst Moaners... Never stop whinging.


Ever seen a poor Farmer ?


100's - 1,000's of Acres of Land. Huge Houses and multiple other Buildings

10,000's of pounds worth of Machinery , Farm vehicles and other equipment.


Excuses for poor Harvest.


Too Hot, Too Cold, Too Dry, Too Wet.


Pay poor immigrant workers peanuts for long hours.


Don't get me started.


Foxy

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> ? Ever seen a poor Farmer ? ?

>

> The whole thread is purpose built for bad takes

> but man alive this will be hard to top

>

> I?ve read it many times. Still can?t believe a

> human wrote it



Quite.

Teachers have pressures as do nurses and doctors. They might have a bit more time to celebrate those pressures given more sociable hours though. Many lawyers are under huge pressure, but the pay is mostly better and their moans aren't very public. Teachers should moan because the working conditions are often appalling. You will know this is right if you've ever taught in mainstream UK schools. Other people's rants need action too though.

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> ? Ever seen a poor Farmer ? ?

>


My family are farmers and like a lot of smaller farmers, they are not rich. Land is actually worth more for development than farming these days and a lot of farmland is rented as well. There are rich farmers for sure, but they tend to be massive landowners. From the crofters of the highlands to the small organic market gardens of the South East, farming is far more diverse than that.


Back on topic however, the biggest moaners (after cab drivers of course) have to be politicians surely? Followed by talk radio presenters :P

nxjen Wrote:

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> Not a profession of course although sometimes I

> wonder but there?s an awful lot of moaning on EDF


Are you moaning about the moaners on the forum ?


Alanis Morissette sung about that 😂

The tabloid press loves to give teachers a bad press because a fair slice of their readership at some point had a bad time with a particular teacher or with school in general and thus likes to read articles which show teachers in a negative light.

Soylent Green Wrote:

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> The tabloid press loves to give teachers a bad

> press because a fair slice of their readership at

> some point had a bad time with a particular

> teacher or with school in general and thus likes

> to read articles which show teachers in a negative

> light.


That may well be true, but they often really don't help themselves do they? (As a collective group)

Soylent Green Wrote:

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> The tabloid press loves to give teachers a bad

> press because a fair slice of their readership at

> some point had a bad time with a particular

> teacher or with school in general and thus likes

> to read articles which show teachers in a negative

> light.


I repeat (and sort of complimented by this) Journalists


Especially when they don't get the sound bite they want

Clutterqueen Wrote:

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> We've all been moaning a lot lately!

>

> To post that teachers are moaners at a time when

> we need them the most is appalling!

>

> The OP's grammar took me by surprise.



Maybe if my teachers hadn't been moaning all the time, my grammar would be more betterish.

Clutterqueen Wrote:

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> We've all been moaning a lot lately!

>

> To post that teachers are moaners at a time when

> we need them the most is appalling!

>

> The OP's grammar took me by surprise.

*chuckles

That's you told Cat! ;-)

It would be better to discuss which section of this forum moans most. The ED issues one is much more whingey than the Lounge. Not sure whether this is explained by demographics, perhaps there are more Daily Mail readers on the other side. PS what happened to the irrational rage thread?

Well...it looks like the Nurses/Unions saw me say 'teachers' and thought...we can top that...


From the Graun....."The Royal College of Nursing (RCN) will establish a ?35m industrial action fund following the government?s recommendation of a 1% pay rise for more than a million NHS workers in England, its leaders have announced. It follows a strike warning from Unite, the UK?s biggest union, which said it will be considering holding an industrial action ballot following the government?s ?kick-in-the-teeth announcement?.


Now, Health workers have clearly worked very hard, under much pressure over the past 12 months in particular. And in an ideal world (or even just a 'normal' world) they would indeed be due a significant bump in pay


But we dont live in anything near a normal world at the moment, and this reaction to the proposed pay-rise in the current climate is outrageous and tone-deaf in my view.


When swathes of people around the country are losing their jobs, or are at risk of losing them after furlough ends, when 1000's of small business have already gone under or are at risk of going under, when high streets are decimated,when young people cant get jobs for love nor money, when we have Children needing remedial education measures......we have the people with arguably the safest jobs in the country moaning about the meagerness of a rise in their pay...?

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