Scary pubs

[????]

I use to be a regular in The Green Man for late drinks on Friday's PD....kept any West Ham chat to a minumum tho . Occasionally in the Henry Cooper...I'd say the OKR pubs/bars were 'lively' rather than scary but not to the taste for many on here I suspect

[PeckhamRose]

There's a pub on Coleman Road in Peckham that is pretty scary. Was visiting a mate nearby and they made it very clear we were not welcome. Two nice females that we were, too!

I've also felt decidedly unwelcome in Man of Kent.

Went to a few pubs in East End with mates - around the Bow flyover where the nature reserve is, and smoking was still going on, and being outsiders we were treated with great suspicion!

[Parkdrive]

???? Wrote:

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> I use to be a regular in The Green Man for late

> drinks on Friday's PD....kept any West Ham chat to

> a minumum tho . Occasionally in the Henry

> Cooper...I'd say the OKR pubs/bars were 'lively'

> rather than scary but not to the taste for many on

> here I suspect

Lively as in it would kick off nearly every night? ;)

[woodrot]

I can recall the days when the OKR was more like Newcastles Bigg market than SE London- utterly heaving, queues for clubs and pubs - and it wasnt that long ago either .its well dead now

[El Pibe]

E&C is named after the cutlery industry that existed there. Something to do with the silver hallmarks or some such.

I grew up with pubs full of casual violence but that's small town mentality for you.

[Otta]

woodrot Wrote:

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> I can recall the days when the OKR was more like

> Newcastles Bigg market than SE London- utterly

> heaving, queues for clubs and pubs - and it wasnt

> that long ago either .its well dead now

Yep, I'm too young to have been there in the 70s & 80s, but as I was reaching getting served age in the 90s we had a few interesting nights around OKR. There was even a pub with a kareoke competition which was a bit edgy if you weren't a regular. The Gin Palace was still going strong too.

[Jeremy]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> E&C is named after the cutlery industry that

> existed there. Something to do with the silver

> hallmarks or some such.

Most source online seem to say it's named after the pub (or coaching inn), so I'm sticking with that. Although of course, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the name of the pub was derived from a local industry.

[El Pibe]

I'm no definitive authority on this, just something I was curious about many moons ago.

There's a million theories (ok about 9) and this one was the most plausible.

As you say pubs and inns are more likely to take names from the same inspiration than be the source of a name, but there are always exceptions.

Swiss Cottage I guess for starters.

[Jeremy]

Yeah it seems that Swiss Cottage and Angel were named after pubs, and I'm sticking with my story about E&C being named after the pub too!

Sun In The Sands I guess has become an unofficial one too...

[red devil]

There used to be an E&C pub in Vauxhall, opposite the station, complete with E&C...not very scary though, esp as it's now a tax avoiding Starbucks

http://s0.geograph.org.uk/photos/61/45/614529_9bf99596.jpg

[El Pibe]

Apparently the inn was on the site of the cutlers. And it wasn't silver it was ivory, which makes more sense, memory is a terrible thing.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ele1.htm

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

I thought E&C was named after some infanta or other. Gin Palace was always a good place to finish a night off.

[Jeremy]

Yep, Infanta de Castilla is apparently another theory!

[Kingy]

The "Elephant and Castle" is derived from a coaching inn of that name on the site. The earliest surviving record of this name relating to the area is in the Court Leet Book of the Manor of Walworth. This local court had met at "Elephant and Castle, Newington" on 21 March 1765. Previously the site was occupied by a blacksmith and cutler ? the coat of arms of the Worshipful Company of Cutlers features an elephant with a castle (possibly meant to be a howdah) on its back, which in turn was used because of the use of elephant ivory in handles.

[Sue]

MrBen Wrote:

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> Anyone recall the forum drinks circa summer 2008

> at the Wishing Well? There was a tiny bit of

> tension in the air.

xxxxx

Oh God, I remember that. Forum drinks in one room, karaoke in the other. Preferred the karaoke :))

I think that was the night I was scared to come out of my cubicle in the loo because of a rather violent conversation between two women in the adjoining cubicle.

But I did quite like the Wishing Well, even though towards the end they never had any beer. The Kraftwerk Tribute Night was good :))

ETA: I know it's not a pub, but the back room of Kebab and Stab can be quite scary in the early hours of Friday night/Saturday morning. Scares me, anyway ......

[Otta]

Sue Wrote:

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> the back room of Kebab and Stab

I think you mean Stab & Wine, or Stab & Crime.

[Sue]

Otta Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > the back room of Kebab and Stab

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>

> I think you mean Stab & Wine, or Stab & Crime.

xxxxxx

Nah, I call it Kebab and Stab :))

[David A]

It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be in there.

I overheard someone describing a mixed kebab and chips as 'the tasting menu' the other night.

[holloway]

if you 're looking for scary pubs in the camberwell area i can recommend the old dispensary and the nag 's head. the old dispensary is actually a pub i go to a lot and perhaps doesn 't entirely deserve to be called scary but it is very old school in all respects. i just can 't stand boring/sterile pubs. the nag 's head just around the corner on the other hand is quite scary, quite villanous.

[camberwell70]

???? Wrote:

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> Ok KK

>

> .Mr B there are a load (and I mean a load) of crap

> pubs from E&C to Camberwell but I can't think of a

> scary one. Even the Carib. There used to be a

> Millwall pub with a load of skagheads on East

> Street in the 80s which was edgy but all the rest

> (that remain) are just a bit divey, pubs I

> wouldn't take my missus to maybe (well maybe not)

> but scary?

You mean The Corrib.

[Sue]

David A Wrote:

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> It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be in

> there.

>

> I overheard someone describing a mixed kebab and

> chips as 'the tasting menu' the other night.

xxxxxxx

:)) :)) :))

[oimissus]

dunno about round here, but a few years back Mr Oi and a couple of his mates (all middle class boys) were writing a book about scary pubs (it came to nothing) and one of the best was one in Silvertown. Every single window was broken and held together by cellophane, there was no door just a roll-up thing which they had to duck under to get in, having ascertained that they were indeed open for custom, and when they spotted the pool table and asked for cues, were handed a variety of cues, all of which were broken. Because they only did their research on Sunday afternoons, being too wussy to go on a Saturday night, they said it wasn't actually scary when they were there, the landlady was very chatty, as were the locals, but clearly things could get pretty lively.

I think in general estate pubs were their favs. I know there's one on the Brandon estate in Camberwell that he keeps meaning to check out.

[????]

The old dispensary hasn't even been there that long. I used to have a beer in the nags head from time to time, I don,t think it could be described as scary, well 7 years ago plus.

[Jeremy]

The Old Dispensary is not even vaguely scary... I even went for a drink with a girl there when it first opened (if those of you who've met me can imagine that).

[Otta]

Haha, you go Jezza!

Nag's Head certainly never used to be scary.

Often you'd see pubs built as part of concrete jungle housing estates like The Ferrier Estate. These pubs looked scary.