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The Castle is not scary (although I think it had it's day in that department) but it does fit the OP in a lot of ways.


My scariest pub experience was in the three lions, a Bristol City pub. My mate upon taking me there told me not to speak to anyone incase they heard my accent and assumed I was Millwall.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Old Bill - I was accused of being old bill a few

> times, my mate was very clean cut and we used to

> like sh!t pubs, particularly in Finsbury Park.

> Locals moved to the other side of the bar when we

> came in.

>

> Bar man just laughed at them though as he knew we

> were boring accountants, he used to drink with us

> at a nearby pub.



You're right about sh1t pubs mick I still like 'em! there were plento of really crappy boozers that weren't at all scary, nowadys there are few....there's plenty of crappy gentrified pubs among the good gentrified ones but they don't have the advantage of being cheap

Good call Jeremy.


I don't think many pubs are actually scary, not these days anyway. But if you go in to a back street boozer and don't show the required respect for the staff, and regulars, then you won't be made welcome.


One of the few things my dad actually taught me was proper pub etiquette. It's a lost art for a lot of people these days.

This is quite funny, from 2009


http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jun/13/guy-browning-pub-etiquette-guide


I particularly like (and agree with) "Wine should never be drunk by an adult male in a pub unless accompanied by a full-blown meal. If in doubt order a pint of wine".

A review of The Hebridies or The Heb, which is one of my favourite boozers ever in Edinburgh had this short and concise entry:


"The ceiling fell in on a customer last night and staff did nothing"


Sorry, bit of topic and geography, but the thread got me reminiscing about pubs of old!

Man of Kent is fine. Pyro has a cow of a landlady if your accent is English. Fortunately they are selling up.


Castle sweet. Now closed but scariest pub I knew was in Peckham near police station (Beehive?). It's closed down now, but had a weird landlady and doilies under everything. When I walked in the whole pub stopped talking - only other time I've experienced that was in Carlisle.

LondonLogCo Wrote:

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> Anyone ever drink in The Brewers in Southampton

> Way ?

>

> Now that was rather unnerving.

>

> Thankfully closed down now.

>

> The Railway in Sydenham was dire, but its being

> refurbed now.



I liked the Railway in Sydenham, used to go there when I lived close to the station. I'd only been a couple of times before I was included in a lock in. Sweet!

The Brockwell Park Tavern (now the Florence) used to be fun especially when the fair was on the park...had to hide in the ladies once as 4 gypsies went at each other with pool cues, another time some nice person decided to open a tear gas canister in there. Always guaranteed a lock in though, 4am was quite a common occurrence

Otta Wrote:

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> LondonLogCo Wrote:

> ----------------------------

> >

> > The Railway in Sydenham was dire, but its being

> > refurbed now.

>

>

> I liked the Railway in Sydenham, used to go there

> when I lived close to the station. I'd only been a

> couple of times before I was included in a lock

> in. Sweet!


Ooo errr


I've just passed The Railway tonight, and peeked through the window.


All wallpaper and trendy lampshades going on in there.


Sydenham is getting made over - OMG

I think remember that (can't believe it was that long ago). There was karaoke going on and the landlady had laid on a spread (not very edible but a nice thought). Wasn't there a "Welcome Home" banner from a previous do & we were pondering where the recipient had been (inside was thought more likely than a gap year!).
The old (and long since demolished) Kings Arms (Kings on the Rye) end of ED Rd. Remember a strategic but hurried withdrawal from there back in early-mid 90s after a small contretemps. The Free Trader (Green Hundred Rd) was a rather stern but decent 'Local' back in the late 80s too though both SE15.

woodrot Wrote:

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> kings on the rye...the horror , the horror

>

> its odd that buses still use kings on the rye as a

> named stop innit



Elephant & Castle is still called E&C after the pub disappeared (even though there's a newer pub now with the same name).


The Angel in Islington ceased to exist around 100 years ago.


Probably lots of others.

The "Elephant and Castle" is derived from a coaching inn of that name on the site.


The earliest surviving record of this name relating to the area is in the Court Leet Book of the Manor of Walworth.


This local court had met at "Elephant and Castle, Newington" on 21 March 1765. Previously the site was occupied by a blacksmith and cutler ? the coat of arms of the Worshipful Company of Cutlers features an elephant with a castle (possibly meant to be a howdah) on its back, which in turn was used because of the use of elephant ivory in handles.


Full article... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_and_Castle


Fox.

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

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> Yep, The Kentish Drovers ( The Flying Tumbler!)

> think fits the bill. Met a pretty scary lad in

> there 2 summers ago. Good chat, but was glad to

> leave.

>

> woodrot Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > actually, I dont wish to tar all w'spoons , but

> I

> > do find the Kentish Drovers in SE15 a grim

> > experience, even with OK beer and cheap

> > eats..Lively in the summer though, when the

> weed

> > garden is open and everyone is getting skanked.



How about the Pince of Wales and the Henry Cooper both used in/off the Old Kent Road, the Green Man also in the Old Kent Road and the notorious Gin Place. Now they were scary, but I virtually lived in those places in the 70's and 80's.

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