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Inspired by an Elephant to Camberwell pub crawl on Friday night, I just wondered if there are any scary pubs left in our immediate surrounds? By scary, I mean to the average normal (ok possibly middle class) guy, the kind of place you don't take the missus to for a glass of Malbec or turn up in a suit in case you get glassed. The kind of place with plenty fringe criminal activity and everyone clearly off their chops on coke.


OR...where the regular's friendliness, openness and genuine hospitality can take you by surprise and you get an old time experience not found in the theme/kit pubs that now dominate SE22.

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> By scary, I mean to the average normal (ok possibly middle class) guy, the kind of place you don't

> take the missus to for a glass of Malbec or turn up in a suit in case you get glassed.


Reminds me of a comment by the Aussie comedian, Jim Jefferies. "{You British] are so violent - you are the only people that use the word 'glass' as a verb..."

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Yep, The Kentish Drovers ( The Flying Tumbler!) think fits the bill. Met a pretty scary lad in there 2 summers ago. Good chat, but was glad to leave.


woodrot Wrote:

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> actually, I dont wish to tar all w'spoons , but I

> do find the Kentish Drovers in SE15 a grim

> experience, even with OK beer and cheap

> eats..Lively in the summer though, when the weed

> garden is open and everyone is getting skanked.

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Ok KK


.Mr B there are a load (and I mean a load) of crap pubs from E&C to Camberwell but I can't think of a scary one. Even the Carib. There used to be a Millwall pub with a load of skagheads on East Street in the 80s which was edgy but all the rest (that remain) are just a bit divey, pubs I wouldn't take my missus to maybe (well maybe not) but scary?

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I am not a pub man, never really have been - pubs are a session delivery mechanism for me, so I dont have a regular place since inside 72 crashed and burned.


Not scarey, but the old working mans club on LL was a peach if you liked cheap beer, snooker and old dodgers hogging a half all night


The old man of Kent or whatever in Nunhead is a dump though- seems to be full of scowling evacuees from the new improved and gentrified Old Nuns head

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When will the proliferation of 'trendy' pubs (Actress, Bishop, etc) require the definition of 'proper pub' to be reconsidered? In ten years time will forumites be lamenting the demise of the Actress, the last 'proper pub' in ED where you could get 15 varieties of Sav Blanc and there was plenty of space to park your buggy?


I agree with those who have said there are no scary pubs in ED, only the odd one where I quietly stash my pocket hanky in my man-bag before entering. Still not been glassed...


Back in NZ me and my mates walked into the Wharf Tavern one night and notwithstanding the smell of piss, stale sweat and the fact our shoes literally stuck to the carpet, approached the bar and ordered a couple of jugs. The landlord told us that was fine and if we managed to finish them before someone broke a pool cue over our heads they were on him. As far as we could tell we were the only punters there so decided to take him at his word.

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Most scary pubs are ones where the Landlord makes it clear you are not welcome or safe, also pubs where you get asked if you're old bill are a bit unerving - so crim pubs basically.


Linked to this I always felt scared in drug pubs back in the day ie walk in, buy a pint and wait to be approached


Plus obvioulsy away at football in the past...especially where your accent wasn't local.

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> Most scary pubs are ones where the Landlord makes

> it clear you are not welcome or safe, also pubs

> where you get asked if you're old bill are a bit

> unerving - so crim pubs basically.

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I had this is deptford shithole pubs a couple of times, maybe cos Im big, lumpy and blates wasnt from around the place.Was told to fuck off effectively.


ETA, I have just realised that I was wearing a white shirt underneath my North face each time- having a pint before I went to my tailors - this is what probabaly spooked them

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Old Bill - I was accused of being old bill a few times, my mate was very clean cut and we used to like sh!t pubs, particularly in Finsbury Park. Locals moved to the other side of the bar when we came in.


Bar man just laughed at them though as he knew we were boring accountants, he used to drink with us at a nearby pub.

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