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Nah you can't base it on postcodes.

1 they are fairly new but e Dulwich existed long before them.

2 postcodes are based on fairly arbitrary boundaries to suit the post office

3 postcodes are subject to change and even elimination and are totally up to the post office.


Would you let macdonalds name our roads?

Okay, so why is Bellenden part of East Dulwich then? I know people who grew up around here and I don't think anyone has ever considered it anything but Peckham even when the two areas socio-economic profiles were more in-line. Why is it all of a sudden part of East Dulwich?

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> John the Boundary Commission agreed that Goose

> Green Bellenden Road Adys Road etc are part of

> East Dulwich.


The sole purpose of the Boundary Commission is to move boundaries. If it was a reliable guide to anything, it wouldn't exist.

Yes and the Sole Purpose of Bin Men is to collect Rubbish. If they didnt exist there would be no rubbish!


The Commission exists to REVIEW Boundaries and ensure that WARDS , Government and and EU Constituenies size are vaguely uniform. And to take into account local opinion when doing this where possible. They also NAME wards and Constituenies.


The Sole Purpose of Burbage is, well, to produce Burbage. :-)

Note Populations do change. London is losing numbers at the movement and if we don't want to give MPs an easy ride in under populated constituencies we have to get their Boundary changed. Verbiage seems to think that populations never change and MPs should get an easy ride.

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Verbiage seems to think that populations

> never change and MPs should get an easy ride.


Not quite. I meant that the Boundary Commission aren't the best people to ask where anywhere happens to be, simply because their answer will necessarily reflect their opinion (or lack of it) at a particular moment in time, and their opinion is not the same as my opinion, nor does it necessarily coincide with the opinions of cartographers, historians, Postal Czars or those with houses to sell. To elaborate the point, they are the arbiters of democratic expedience rather than geographical truth, and have no monopoly on the matter, save with respect to electoral concerns which, with respect to the e-dealer, are far from the only possible concerns.


Consider this: if everyone within the current electoral boundaries went to live in Margate, leaving the place devoid of human inhabitants, East Dulwich would cease to exist in the mind of the Electoral Commission. Yet, to anyone else, the impudent persistence of the Railway Station, the Sorting Office and the Palm Tree Roundabout would clearly attest to it continuing to be a place.


Happily, given the question was what your (or, in my case, my) opinion of where the East Dulwich boundaries are (or by implication, should be), the question of whether the Boundary Commission is or is not an infallible bureacratic ornament becomes entirely irrelevant.


Given the level of interest in the issue, I have sacrificed a portion of my afternoon in pursuit of enlightenment and am now in the happy position of being able to publish the results here for the benefit of all. I trust no further clarification will be required.

I have never in my life heard anyone say that Bellenden was not Peckham (until the favourite streets thread that is).


I always thought of ED as finishing at the Goose Green roundabout, but I am willing to go as far as EAST DULWICH Station (good of me I know). I would then say that the boundary runs along Goose Green up to the Peckham Rye Cross Roads.


At the top, I'd say ED ends at The bottom of Sydenham Hill. I would call Hornimans Forest Hill.

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> So St Johns not an East Dulwich Church?



Yes it is, St John's basically the end point for me.


I'm not going to argue with anyone over this though, I just said what I think of as East Dulwich. Whether it's right or wrong is of no real importance in the grand scheme of things.

Agree but then I tend to agree with Otta / common sense



Otta Wrote:

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> I have never in my life heard anyone say that

> Bellenden was not Peckham (until the favourite

> streets thread that is).

>

> I always thought of ED as finishing at the Goose

> Green roundabout, but I am willing to go as far as

> EAST DULWICH Station (good of me I know). I would

> then say that the boundary runs along Goose Green

> up to the Peckham Rye Cross Roads.

>

> At the top, I'd say ED ends at The bottom of

> Sydenham Hill. I would call Hornimans Forest Hill.

So not goose green the church. What about the other buildings along there




Wrote:

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> the-e-dealer Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > So St Johns not an East Dulwich Church?

>

>

> Yes it is, St John's basically the end point for

> me.

>

> I'm not going to argue with anyone over this

> though, I just said what I think of as East

> Dulwich. Whether it's right or wrong is of no real

> importance in the grand scheme of things.

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