Some useful info related to Southwark, traffic, LTNs etc

[legalalien]

Went down an internet wormhole and ended up reading this Air Quality Assessment about the new development in Solomon?s Passage, which sets out all the air quality obligations in applicable planning law. Seems crazy that there are detailed requirements to model the effects of eg construction traffic, but not major changes to road schemes that have a much greater impact.

https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/files/29EBDBF9C16630C50A90722E7600B0B1/pdf/20_AP_3285-REVISED_AIR_QUALITY_ASSESSMENT-1102819.pdf

[legalalien]

Information on new blue badge exemptions from camera controlled restrictions in Dulwich LTNs

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking/disabled-parking/parking-with-a-blue-badge?chapter=2

One thing to note (if I am reading it correctly), whereas the blue badge can be used for parking purposes for any car in which the holder is a driver/ passenger, for LTN purposes one specific car needs to be registered against the holder (can be their car or a carer's car, but doesn't work if there multiple carers).

[sally buying]

Thanking you for this information.

Why can all blue badge holders not be included in this. They still have to pass through the same streets.

Again dispensation for the residents of Dulwich.

[alice]

Exactly

[mako]

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote:

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> Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> > Can't those people just cycle to Dulwich

> College?

> > Why not, what's wrong with them?

>

>

> Maybe it's because lots of them are 13 years old

> and cycling through London isn't safe due to the

> volume of inattentive, speeding drivers and the

> lack of safe cycling spaces.

>

> Now you mention it, someone should do something

> about that - you know, something to reduce the

> volume of traffic close to all the schools in

> Dulwich, and discourage private car drivers from

> going along key routes at rush hours... 🤔

If we cant get kids to walk to school or walk from a bus stop in the village to Dulwich college, what chance is there of getting the wider population to engage in more active travel.

[tersiered]

Hi All Just Got a PCN on junction of Townley Road and Carlton Road (Northbound) had no idea enforemcent was in place. As not driven down there since before lockdown happened.....How long has it been in place???

[sanda]

Roads change all the time and road signs go up and come down, including temporary ones. Part of the expectation of being a licensed driver is to keep a careful eye on surroundings and to know your Highway Code. Get it wrong, and you might pay a fine as now. Or worse, you run someone over or crash into something. If you had driven through a new ?Give Way? sign and slammed into the side of someone, would it matter when the change to the road was made?

[alex_b]

That was the huge problem with the redesigned Carlton/Court Lane junction pre-LTN. The priority was changed, but large swaths of drivers simply ignored the new signs breezing through the give way line or blocking the junction.

[march46]

Well said Sanda. Many drivers are 'missing' the 20mph signs too, is anyone suggesting they aren't visible enough?

[Rockets]

But 22,500 drivers have not missed a two 20mph signs in a 6 week period. You have to admit that those numbers suggest that something isn't working.

[march46]

Who knows, there are no speed cameras unfortunately.

[alex_b]

From what I see around East Dulwich almost every driver ?misses? the 20 mph signs. The difference is that the LTNs are enforced.

[legalalien]

Upcoming cycle hangars and various double yellow lines etc

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3771087

[Rockets]

legalalien Wrote:

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> Upcoming cycle hangars and various double yellow

> lines etc

>

> https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3771087

Ah the usual double-yellow line extension pre-cursor to a CPZ review is in play (squeeze the parking spaces to try and create parking stress to get people to vote for a CPZ):

(n) add new or extends existing lengths of DYL 2m (unless otherwise stated) in ATHENLAY ROAD, BELLWOOD ROAD, BORLAND ROAD, DUNSTANS ROAD (3m), ELCOT AVENUE, FELLBRIGG ROAD (4.5m), FRIERN ROAD, GOODRICH ROAD, GROSVENOR PARK (1.5m), IVYDALE ROAD, KELLY AVENUE, MELBOURNE GROVE, OVERHILL ROAD, SHENLEY ROAD and in three locations on UPLAND ROAD;

[Spartacus]

View on a map

You need to zoom right in to see details

https://consultation.appyway.com/southwark

Not easy to find on southwarks website and only a limited time for anyone to object if they feel so inclined

[legalalien]

TfL updated Streetspace consultation guidance - December 2020

https://content.tfl.gov.uk/appx-twenty-consultation-engagement-approach-new-lsp-schemes.pdf

[slarti b]

@Legal, That consultation guidance is helpful and very interesting. I wonder if the "parklets" that have suddenly sprung up are part of Tfl Streetspace measures? If so, our local OCuncillors have definitely not followed the guidelines.

[Metallic]

Rockets Wrote:

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> legalalien Wrote:

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> > Upcoming cycle hangars and various double

> yellow

> > lines etc

> >

> > https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3771087

>

> Ah the usual double-yellow line extension

> pre-cursor to a CPZ review is in play (squeeze the

> parking spaces to try and create parking stress to

> get people to vote for a CPZ):

>

>

> (n) add new or extends existing lengths of DYL 2m

> (unless otherwise stated) in ATHENLAY ROAD,

> BELLWOOD ROAD, BORLAND ROAD, DUNSTANS ROAD (3m),

> ELCOT AVENUE, FELLBRIGG ROAD (4.5m), FRIERN ROAD,

> GOODRICH ROAD, GROSVENOR PARK (1.5m), IVYDALE

> ROAD, KELLY AVENUE, MELBOURNE GROVE, OVERHILL

> ROAD, SHENLEY ROAD and in three locations on

> UPLAND ROAD;

Isn't it funny that the area the councillors are saying the residents need to walk and cycle, and have made road closures the way to do it, ie Dulwich Village LTN area, have no cycle hangars in that list.

[redpost]

Rockets Wrote:

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> legalalien Wrote:

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> > Upcoming cycle hangars and various double

> yellow

> > lines etc

> >

> > https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3771087

>

> Ah the usual double-yellow line extension

> pre-cursor to a CPZ review is in play (squeeze the

> parking spaces to try and create parking stress to

> get people to vote for a CPZ):

>

>

> (n) add new or extends existing lengths of DYL 2m

> (unless otherwise stated) in ATHENLAY ROAD,

> BELLWOOD ROAD, BORLAND ROAD, DUNSTANS ROAD (3m),

> ELCOT AVENUE, FELLBRIGG ROAD (4.5m), FRIERN ROAD,

> GOODRICH ROAD, GROSVENOR PARK (1.5m), IVYDALE

> ROAD, KELLY AVENUE, MELBOURNE GROVE, OVERHILL

> ROAD, SHENLEY ROAD and in three locations on

> UPLAND ROAD;

No, to stop road deaths/injuries to pedestrians at junctions caused by inadequate sight lines and speeding drivers.

[legalalien]

The next Environment Scrutiny Commission meeting is on Thursday 29 April:

https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=6992

The various reports to be discussed at the meeting haven't been put up yet but should be available at that link in due course.

[tedfudge]

Fines from cameras in a Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) run by Southwark Council in London have generated ?2.5 million in revenue just three months after the scheme?s launch, data from a Freedom of Information (FOI) request reveals.

A large amount of fixed penalty charges have been issued to road users by three?LTN cameras installed in Dulwich and one in Walworth.

In Dulwich Village, drivers have received?22,424 fines?between January 11 and February 28 2021

[mynamehere]

Register to e part of consultation.

https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/dulwich-review-registration-form/

Overview

Register your interest here in the forthcoming Dulwich Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) Review consultation.

We will be conducting an in-depth review consultation of the LTN measures in Dulwich Village, East Dulwich and Champion Hill. We want to hear from everyone in these areas, and others affected by the road changes, such as commuters, schoolchildren, and residents of nearby roads. This consultation, alongside an extensive programme of monitoring, will inform the council's decision on whether to retain, amend or remove the LTN measures.

The consultation is planned for launch in May 2021. Please register your interest here, provide contact details, and you will receive notification on the day of launch, as well as email updates during and after the process. The form also asks if you wish to receive a paper copy of the consultation - additional copies will be made available at pick-up locations (to be confirmed).

Details of the consultation will also be published here, so you may wish to bookmark this page. The registration form will close when the consultation itself launches.

Registration is not compulsory to participate in the consultation, but is appreciated. We are using this registration process to ensure that we are reaching all areas affected by the LTN measures and delivering as fair a consultation as possible.

[legalalien]

Agenda for this Thursday?s Environment Scrutiny Commission here

https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=6992

Includes draft Air Quality Scrutiny report and draft Environment and Planning scrutiny report (latter summarises some evidence taken of whether / how the New Southwark Plan fits with Southwark climate emergency targets.

Meeting is at 6:30pm and generally streamed live on Southwark?s YouTube channel.

[heartblock]

They don't need cycle hangers in the Village LTNs...as they have SUVs to put their bikes in/on when they drive to the 'country pad' or a a large garden to store them in.

[Burbage]

Rockets Wrote:

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> But 22,500 drivers have not missed a two 20mph

> signs in a 6 week period. You have to admit that

> those numbers suggest that something isn't

> working.

The RAC's Report on Motoring 2020, contains this:

"On roads with a 20mph limit, compliance is also improving with nearly four in 10 (39%) admitting to speeding, down

from 44% last year"

and

"Meanwhile, 11% of limit-breakers have driven above 40mph in a 30mph zone while 10% have exceeded 30mph in a 20mph zone. In the case of the latter, 45% of those who speed at least occasionally say this is because they believe the limit is ?inappropriate? for the area or stretch of road in question."

I think that tells us exactly what's not working.