Some useful info related to Southwark, traffic, LTNs etc

[Rockets]

Indeed but I think in Dulwich more people are aware as people's daily lives are being impacted (given the large % of car ownership) and I think that is why One Dulwich have so much support - likely to become even more when the fines start coming in through the new timed closures.

It was interesting that in the last One Dulwich email they promised to alert people to how they register their comments about the closures when the council opens up the "consultation and feedback" period. It is not in the interests of either the council or the pro-closure lobby to have broad awareness of the steps needing to be taken to register thoughts. I think that was why OneDulwich were very cleverly putting flyers on cars in Dulwich over the summer - alerting people to a resource that could help them if they don't like the changes.

It's also why the What's App fuelled awareness of the Southwark e-petition led to so many local residents signing it. expect a similar thing to happen when the consultation process starts.

The pro-closure lobby twitter feeds don't get any traction - they seem to be followed by the same group of pro and anti-closure lobbyists so they aren't moving the needle - they are either talking to themselves or their opponents.

The challenge in any sort of debate like this is for the council and pro-closure lobby to try and ride out the storm of negative publicity and hope people get used to the changes, lose interest in the fight and can't be bothered to find out more. For the anti-closure lobby they have to try and keep the issue front of mind for the most number of people to get them to register their objections and lobby the council for change.

The things you are doing will be annoying the hell out of the council and pro-closure lobby as it is shining a light on the process (so keep it up! ;-)).

In previous council consultations constituent ignorance has been the council's bliss! I very much sense that has changed now.

[Serena2012]

Southwark have scheduled a couple of community meetings next Friday (27 November) to discuss the East Dulwich LTN. All welcome, as long as you register by next Thursday. The registration details are found in the ?news bulletin? section of the East Dulwich Streetspace page. See link below. Questions can be fielded in advance by emailing [email protected]:

https://eastdulwichstreetspace.commonplace.is/news

[legalalien]

Decision notice on the first batch of Guys and St Thomas schemes at http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s92258/Record%20of%20Decision.pdf. Interesting read as it records all the various concerns raised by the local ward councillors, Cllrs Burgess and Wingfield, including effects of displacement, social justice concerns, lack of air quality monitoring, lack of consultation. Going ahead on an experimental basis, decision notes that

"The proposals have been assessed and the locations chosen based on an assessment of the indices of multiple deprivation to ensure it is being delivered in an area that is most in need. While it is accepted that there will be some displacement of traffic on to the periphery roads it should be noted that this is a trial scheme and a robust system of monitoring will be put in place to measure this and the results of this will be considered as part of any further decision making over the future of this scheme. This traffic flow data will also allow the council to make an assessment of any air quality changes that may occur as a direct result of the scheme without the figures being affected by the many other sources of pollution or prevailing weather conditions.

Additional investigation work will also be carried out with air quality monitoring specialists to determine if there is an economically feasible methodology to more accurately assess air quality changes.

The principle of an experimental order is to allow people living in the area to experience the changes to help them form an opinion. Full consultation will be carried out following the implementation of the measures and the council will respond to any representations received during the initial monitoring period. As part of the public engagement for the scheme officers will ensure proper discussions with Orchard House are carried out.

It should further be noted that the proposed monitoring regime for the schemes is far more comprehensive than anything else associated with LTNs across the borough. This, in conjunction with the reference sites, should allow a comprehensive assessment of the effects of the proposed measures."

[legalalien]

As noted on the ?info? thread,boroughs are asked to discuss all Streetspace (including LTN) proposals with TfL. In addition, there is a statutory requirement to make Traffic Management Act 2004 Notifications (TMAN): ?Pursuant to the Traffic Management Act 2004, any activity carried out by the Boroughs using Highways Act 1980 (HA) or Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (RTRA) powers which will or are likely to affect the Strategic Road Network (SRN) or the Transport for London Road Network (TLRN) is notifiable by the Borough to TfL through TfL?s TMAN process.? Section 121B of the RTRA requires TfL to be notified and either consent, or ?not object? within one month.

I put in an FOI request to TfL re TMAN applications for DV/ ED closures: just received their response. It says nothing about those closures (not sure that means there were no TMAN notification or not), but here are some new / amended closures that Southwark have apparently asked TfL to consider:

?TfL received a Traffic Management Act 2004 Notification (TMAN ) from Southwark Borough Council reference number N2004545, on the 10 November 2020. This TMAN was relating to Dulwich Village London Streetspace Programme (LSP) timed access restrictions. The scheme notification relates to timed access restrictions on multiple roads around Dulwich village from 8am ? 10am and 3pm ? 6pm. The proposed changes are: restricted access to Turney Road from Croxted Road, to Gallery Road from A205 Thurlow Park Road, and to College Road from A205 Dulwich Common. The information currently provided includes a General Arrangement drawing with proposed signage locations / wording and scheme impact monitoring document highlighting ATC camera positioning on East Dulwich Grove and Lordship Lane. Please see attached.

At present we are still reviewing the detail of the LSP and what implications the restrictions may have on the Transport for London Road Network and the Strategic Road Network (TLRN / SRN) corridors, especially the potential for traffic reassignment on the SRN corridor Lordship Lane and the potential for impact to bus services along this corridor. TfL will need to agree a monitoring strategy with Southwark.?

[FairTgirl]

I like the second to last sentence - an acknowldgement by Southwark perhaps that the monitoring of all the others is quite poor, or non-existent.

legalalien Wrote:

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> Decision notice on the first batch of Guys and St

> Thomas schemes at

> http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s92258

> /Record%20of%20Decision.pdf. Interesting read as

> it records all the various concerns raised by the

> local ward councillors, Cllrs Burgess and

> Wingfield, including effects of displacement,

> social justice concerns, lack of air quality

> monitoring, lack of consultation. Going ahead on

> an experimental basis, decision notes that

>

> "The proposals have been assessed and the

> locations chosen based on an assessment of the

> indices of multiple deprivation to ensure it is

> being delivered in an area that is most in need.

> While it is accepted that there will be some

> displacement of traffic on to the periphery roads

> it should be noted that this is a trial scheme and

> a robust system of monitoring will be put in place

> to measure this and the results of this will be

> considered as part of any further decision making

> over the future of this scheme. This traffic flow

> data will also allow the council to make an

> assessment of any air quality changes that may

> occur as a direct result of the scheme without the

> figures being affected by the many other sources

> of pollution or prevailing weather conditions.

> Additional investigation work will also be carried

> out with air quality monitoring specialists to

> determine if there is an economically feasible

> methodology to more accurately assess air quality

> changes.

> The principle of an experimental order is to allow

> people living in the area to experience the

> changes to help them form an opinion. Full

> consultation will be carried out following the

> implementation of the measures and the council

> will respond to any representations received

> during the initial monitoring period. As part of

> the public engagement for the scheme officers will

> ensure proper discussions with Orchard House are

> carried out.

> It should further be noted that the proposed

> monitoring regime for the schemes is far more

> comprehensive than anything else associated with

> LTNs across the borough. This, in conjunction with

> the reference sites, should allow a comprehensive

> assessment of the effects of the proposed

> measures."

[legalalien]

Information about TfL activity in Southwark (including funding for Southwark Local Implementation Plans) here:

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/boroughs-and-communities/southwark#on-this-page-1

If anyone wants to comment on the TfL trial of operating bus lanes 24/7 - the link is here

https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/better-bus-journeys/

[bels123]

Thanks for posting, hope everyone can get behind it given the frequent comments on this forum regarding poor public transport / slow bus running times.

[legalalien]

This ?Air Quality Update? info, which relates to a meeting back on 17 June, was posted on the council website yesterday.

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/ieDecisionDetails.aspx?ID=7241

[malumbu]

The Southwark stuff sounds pretty rational to me. Try reading it again in the morning with a fresh perspective. There is a finite amount of air quality monitoring you can do. Local authorities have responsibilities under air quality legislation - I'm getting a bit rusty as I could have quoted them off the top of my head. This forum is often great place to discuss issues - particularly now pubs are places I'm not frequenting, but is not representative of the population as a whole, just those (including me) who shout loudest - although I may be better than many at seeing both sides of the argument. Funny when I post something that is relatively neutral and informative I generally get no comments.

[legalalien]

The Southwark Health and Well-being Board is meeting on Monday 21st and one of the agenda items is a presentation and report called

AIR QUALITY ANNUAL STATUS REPORT 2019.

Background info not yet up on the website but I guess will be added before the meeting - here?s the link

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=6887

[Wil72]

Thanks so much to Legalalien for putting this together- it is a total minefield trying to find out all of the information via Southwark's website

Why doesn't that surprise me?...

[legalalien]

For info: Southwark's Air Quality Status Report for 2019 (dated May 2020), with associated presentation, GLA comments on the report etc - tabled at last night's Health and Wellbeing Board meeting - starts at about p 35 after the Covid update.

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/b50012480/Supplemental%20Agenda%20No.%201%20Monday%2021-Dec-2020%2017.00%20Health%20and%20Wellbeing%20Board.pdf?T=9

[legalalien]

The written responses to public questions asked at the Council Assembly meeting on 25 November have been published on the website and include this:

"2. QUESTION FROM CLIVE RATES TO THE CABINET MEMBER FOR LEISURE, ENVIRONMENT AND ROADS

As Southwark are aware, the road closures and restrictions which have been implemented in Dulwich are fundamentally different to those which had been consulted on earlier this year, and don?t in our view have the support of the local community. We and other residents groups have made sincere and constructive attempts to put forward workable amendments to the schemes. Please can Southwark confirm that there will be a meaningful and well publicised consultation of affected residents (ie Areas A, B & C as per the consultation earlier this year) on Phase 1 of the Dulwich scheme prior to 17 December this year, being the deadline for objections to the Experimental Traffic Order?

RESPONSE

The council has put together a comprehensive package of monitoring and engagement with the community. This will contain a large amount of measured data and we will be asking anyone who feeds back to us to provide some information on where they live and how they use the streets. This will help us to really understand different people's views and move forward in an informed manner.

Information about the review process and engagement meetings will be set out early in the New Year. This exercise will be carried out over the coming months with an open report on what has been done expected to be presented in the spring. After this we will continue to look and listen as we go through the process of making decisions on the future of the schemes

The 17 December deadline specifically relates to the relevant highways legislation that provides for a statutory 6 month period to lodge formal objections to any experimental trial scheme. We will give equal weight and consideration to any objection and/or comment received after this date, as part of the proposed consultation mentioned above."

[legalalien]

The council refreshed its overall plan recently and has just put the detailed ?measures? it will use to track progress against the plan on its website at http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s92603/Report%20-%20Council%20Plan%20Performance%20Schedules.pdf

These are not so much quantified targets / an SLA, as things that will be measured. It?s quite an interesting read to get a feel for the Council?s thinking on various issues. On the LTN front, the measures are set out below (apologies for formatting). Interesting that some of the measures relate to number of roads closed (separately from eg traffic reduction).

Make Southwark a Low Traffic Borough, dedicating more of our highways to zero carbon uses including walking and cycling and improving air quality by reducing car journeys

CR

EL / CEX

CE3.1

MI

Evaluate the effectiveness of the Street Space Plan and review the Dulwich LTN and use this learning to drive further improvements for the rest of the programme

CR

EL / CEX

CE3.2

ME

Prepare a Low Traffic Plan, inclusive of an action plan

CR

EL / CEX

CE3.3

ME

Annual vehicle kms (millions)

CR

EL / CEX

CE3.4

ME

Length of accessible cycle routes delivered

CR

EL / CEX

CE3.5

ME

Number of roads with motor vehicle restrictions including modal filters, school street closures, footway widenings

CR

EL / CEX

CE3.6

ME

Decrease the percentage of children being driven to school at each school where School Street closures are implemented

CR

EL / CEX

CE3.7

ME

Decrease the percentage of children being driven to school at each school where School Street measures are not possible

CR

EL / CEX

CE3.8

MI

Develop baseline for % of highways given to zero-carbon use and implement reporting

[legalalien]

Link to Transport for London "Travel in London" Report 13 (think someone linked to the press release on a previous thread - however the press release is understandably selective as to which figures it mentions)

content.tfl.gov.uk/travel-in-london-report-13.pdf

Interesting read about travel trends in London in 2019 (and then post-pandemic). On about page 92 it seems that TfL has some concerns about DfT vehicle mileage estimates following DfT adjustments to minor road estimates and there are ongoing discussions - TfL sticking to its own figures for the time being. Looks as if someone has put in an FoI request to find out more info about this...

[rch]

Apologies if this has been posted somewhere else, but this is the latest formal traffic study for the Dulwich area, published in April 2018:-

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/6887/Dulwich-TMS-SDG-Full-Report-Final-April-2018-.pdf

There?s a lot of intriguing data presented in a dubious context, in my opinion, but perhaps we can discuss/analyse on another thread?

[legalalien]

Hi all,

A range of new minor traffic schemes proposed for the Dulwich area are up for decision - see

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=50024108. Haven't read them all, mostly yellow lines etc, looks like a timed school street for Heber, some passing bays in St Aidan's Road and a strengthening of parking restrictions around DPL to include no loading signs, among others...

[exdulwicher]

The papers for the next TfL Board meeting (3rd Feb) are online now and it includes a mention of the Judicial Review

(Edit - should have clarified, the Healthy Streets / Streetscape case brought by the Taxi trade against TfL).

http://content.tfl.gov.uk/board-20210203-agenda-papers.pdf

It's in the Commissioner's Report section.

[legalalien]

Just remembered the TfL meeting and took a look - not much to see - commissioner choosing not to comment on live case (given appeal), https://www.london.gov.uk/tfl-board-meeting-2021-02-03 at 1:52:45 for question and then about 2:04. TfL don?t see the taxi decision as necessarily being a precedent for all schemes and are hoping each scheme can / saying each scheme should be considered on its own merits.

[legalalien]

Minutes from cabinet meeting on 2 Feb here (includes the written answers to public questions regarding the review process for Dulwich restrictions.

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/g6666/Printed%20minutes%20Tuesday%2002-Feb-2021%2011.00%20Cabinet.pdf?T=1

[northernmonkey]

Those minutes are incorrect - they have the right date but its not the minutes of the meeting I watched this week!

[legalalien]

Like me, Southwark have their own viewing prism?

When I was a trainee, there was a clear understanding that whoever controlled the minutes, controlled the negotiations....

[northernmonkey]

Haha - whereas when I was a trainee, there was a definite danger in using the last version of anything and then clicking ctrl + paste.

Suspect these will be updated!

[legalalien]

When I was a trainee there was no cut and paste. Old, I am...

[legalalien]

The "Batch 2" minor traffic scheme mentioned above has now been approved subject to the outcome of statutory consultation, EXCEPT the removal of parking in Melford Road, where the councillor has requested a site visit. See http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s93315/APPENDIX%205%20MELFORD%20ROAD.pdf for the approvals, the proposal for Melford is here: http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s93315/APPENDIX%205%20MELFORD%20ROAD.pdf.