EJTH Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Beware the older woman in green garb and headscarf passing herself odd as a Big Issue seller outside Coop today. She's not wearing an official tabard and has no ID. People like her do a complete disservice to the real Big Issue sellers who are genuinely attempting to earn and honest living. http://www.bigissue.com/about-usIf you are looking to buy one check out Kelvin in front of St Chrisopther's Hospice today. Cheery bloke and polite too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopTree Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Before giving ? Please ask - are you on benefits including housing and while here ?are you looking for work. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cora Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Have you reported her to The Big Issue? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlwise Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Where would she be getting the Big Issues from then if she's not genuine? Did you ask to see her ID and she did not show it to you? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 TopTree Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Before giving ? Please ask - are you on benefits> including housing and while here ?are you looking> for work.No, because that's none of our business. As long as they have the appropriate I.D. then that should be enough. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopTree Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Edcam ? Hope you never complain about cooperation?s not paying TAX then. Do you know the registration process of the Big Issue or do you know the owner and his background? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiera Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I agree with edcam. When buying a newspaper, or anything else for that matter, I wouldn't ask personal questions of the person who is selling it. I don't know why you, TopTree, think it's o.k. to be rude to a Big Issue vendor, before buying a paper from him. In any case, I don't see the point of your questions - if he/she says they are getting housing benefit, will you think you've caught them out - that they're not really homeless? Not so,they may well be living in a hostel for the homeless, paying rent. Or did you just want to point out to them that they are being subsidised by taxpayers? Or are you vetting them to confirm they are genuine Big Issue vendors, in which case, what would be the "right" answers? "Yes, while I'm standing here, I'm also looking for work?" So what exactly is your point,TopTree? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Why would you ask a Big Issue seller whether they are looking for work, whilst they work? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamityKel Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 What's the Coops views on this? Assuming you complained to them too, no? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopTree Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 The discussion started ? ?passing herself off as a Big Issue seller? ? If she is homeless does it matter if she has an ID ? Still needs money? Perhaps they pass the Big Issue between themselves and have a rota for the pitches and all know each other ? A good business framework. The latter I suggest is true. When you donate to a Charity, might I suggest you check the salary of the chief executive of the said Charity. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynne Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Aren't people wandering from the point?If she isn't an official Big issue seller, than she shouldn't say she is, even if she's needy. Would you think it was OK if someone who needed the money came to you and said they were collecting for Cancer Research, or something similar, and then pocketeted the money?If it's the same person, I;ve seen her dropped off by car there.Lynne Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunhat Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Reference :http://adf.ly/2038788/http://www.passingseason.com Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 TopTree Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Edcam ? Hope you never complain about> cooperation?s not paying TAX then. Do you know the> registration process of the Big Issue or do you> know the owner and his background?This is beside the point. Your suggestion is still patronising and out of order. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
northlondoner Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 TopTree Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> When you donate to a Charity,> might I suggest you check the salary of the chief> executive of the said Charity.Classy. Really classy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopTree Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 edcam 'out of order'. Have you ever done a voluntary homeless soup run at 3am? In fact have you ever done any voluntary homeless work - outreach/street count/Christmas Day homeless centre work? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 TopTree Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> edcam 'out of order'. Have you ever done a> voluntary homeless soup run at 3am? In fact have> you ever done any voluntary homeless work -> outreach/street count/Christmas Day homeless> centre work?Yes I have. But even if I hadn't I would still believe you to be out if order. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Isn't there a bloke who (I believe) 'legitimately' sells Big Issue outside the large charity shop ?I'd be interested to know his view on this. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 What really annoys me is all the spotty anorak wearing Herberts camping on Leicester Square today in order to see the new Twilight Zone Movie on Wednesday. Haven't they got Schools / work to go to? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 KidKruger Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Isn't there a bloke who (I believe) 'legitimately'> sells Big Issue outside the large charity shop ?> I'd be interested to know his view on this.xxxxxxxYes. He's a really nice guy.Presumably this other woman is taking business from him. But I'm a bit bemused, because there have been women selling the Big Issue outside the Co-Op for years. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minkey Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 "No, because that's none of our business. As long as they have the appropriate I.D. then that should be enough."Totally agree. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brain_opera Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 TopTree Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> edcam 'out of order'. Have you ever done a> voluntary homeless soup run at 3am? In fact have> you ever done any voluntary homeless work -> outreach/street count/Christmas Day homeless> centre work?*slow handclap* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidh Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 this woman has been selling big issue outside the co-op for years, probably since the youngish man with dog disappeared. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda boy Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 This 'older woman in green garb and headscarf' as you so eloquently descibe her has a genuinly tragic story. Maybe ask around some of the local shops and do some homework to find out her background before pasing judgment or writing ill informed opinions on a local forum. If you don't agree with the way she presents herself then don't buy from her and stick to cheery Kelvin. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 If she's selling the Big Issue without a seller's ID, it seems perfectly reasonable to query it and prefer a seller who has without having to know her back story or 'do some homework'. Offload the guilt trip somewhere else. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
panda boy Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I agree with you, it is perfectly reasonable to query it.Describing her as a scammer without knowing anything about her or even trying to find out anything more and ust posting on here is however not reasonable.Its an assumption."Offload the guilt trip somewhere else." For heavens sake why? Are you suggesting people posting assumptions on this forum are supposed to be protected from feeling guilt? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/26655-big-issue-scammer-lordship-lane/#findComment-591860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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