The Lib Dems - where have they gone ?

[woodrot]

Now The political equivalent of a Jim'l Fix it badge - where have the born again LD voters gone?

[El Pibe]

Well, given the choice of this shag sack of limp tories being in power on their own, or heaven forbid Labour getting their hands on the reigns of power again, I'll be sticking with them in a bid that they get to carry on annoying everyone and making life difficult for 'effective' govenrnment.

Less is more is never so true than of governments' need to be seen to be doing something

[Ridgley]

I am sure they will be hammered at the next election, quite a lot of Limp Dems voters have defected to UKIP I very surprised if they get back into a coalition with the Tories.

[Townleygreen]

They would prefer a coalition with Labour, Ridgley, but the election results didn't permit that last time.

I would be very surprised if any Lib Dems have defected to UKIP - it's the Tories who are doing that which is why their backbenchers arranged that vote against the government the other day on the EU.

Lib dems will have been defecting to labour probably, but it is very early days yet. Don't write the Libs off just yet!.

[the-e-dealer]

Yes give it about 5 minutes!

[Townleygreen]

In case you hadn't noticed, ted, the next election is due for 2015. That is forever in politics! Everything can change by then.

[the-e-dealer]

The point is the Lib Dems changing every flipping five minutes you cant trust them and those who voted or them as a protest vote feel cheated. Vote Liberal Get Tory. It was the biggest Lie in British Politics. Sadly I doubt if the Protest voters will bother voting again having been so badly cheated.

[the-e-dealer]

The point is the Lib Dems changing every flipping five minutes you cant trust them and those who voted or them as a protest vote feel cheated. Vote Liberal Get Tory. It was the biggest Lie in British Politics. Sadly I doubt if the Protest voters will bother voting again having been so badly cheated. Just look at the swings against the Liberals in all the By Elections- For them its Bye Elections!

[*Bob*]

Reality check: they've got less than 60 seats in Parliament - out of 650.

What do you expect? Vince Cable as Prime Minister? Nick Clegg as King? Full policy implementation?

I think they've had just about as much influence as they're probably entitled to.. ie not much.

BLAME THE LIB DEMS! It's like shouting at a child for throwing a crisp packet in your front garden whilst somebody else empties a thousand tonnes of manure in your back garden.

[the-e-dealer]

If the Limp Dems weren't propping up the Tories they wouldnt be in power! Simple!

[*Bob*]

Defeated parties (and supporters of defeated parties) need to concentrate on trying and get more people to vote for them, not blubbling about 'ow they woz robbed.

[????]

The Liberal democrats aren't changing their policies they are in a coalition as a junior partner, they have to compromise, that's being in a coalition govt. Their raising of the lower tax threshold for low eraners is to my mind one of the key policies that they've got accepted. I'll probably vote for them again, I certainly won't be voting for any party that doesn't take a responsible attitude towards thr defeceit and public spending...and Labour look genetically incapable of taking any tough action in this area (plus half them are sponsored by unions that are on record of opposing cuts - go figure), I don't want a bankrupt country so will vote for parties who can convince me they don't....Labour have got a lot oif convincing to do (for me) as deep down I don't think most labourites supporters or party or MPs really get it. I'll even vote Tory if neccessary however rubbish thery've proved (and they have in many arenas) becuase they are ready to take responsible decisions and willing to look at reform to try anfg get our very neccessary public services working more efficiently, and n some areas are suceeding. Think the LDs will get slaughtered though as most people don't like reality much.

[the-e-dealer]

In case you hadn't noticed, ????, the next election is due for 2015. That is forever in politics! Everything can change by then.

[????]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> If the Limp Dems weren't propping up the Tories

> they wouldnt be in power! Simple!

If you want to see what would be happening if Labour had won just look accross the Channel - useless ineffective govt/debts rising/deeply unpopular. They (Labour) would have been decimated at the next election, If I was Ed M and Ed Balls I'd be absolutely delighted to be exactly where they are now.

RE Ed Milliband, personally I think he has grown into his role and is more convincing that last year when I thought he was a basket case for Labour.

[*Bob*]

I agree with Nick.. er, I mean, ????.

They've got a few things in, probably about as much as they're entitled to. The rest has been a hard lesson in real-life politics innit - and there's no way to avoid the kicking that is surely to come.

[Townleygreen]

The LibDems'll probably get a kicking, but I agree they have taken hard decisions and are playing their part in getting some of our problems inherited from Labour sorted out.

[uncleglen]

The Tories would have won outright if the Scots MPs had not been counted in the last TWO elections. The Scots MPs have a vote on what goes on in England but the Scots determine their own policies independently of England. And now we discover that ?1,600 more per head per year was spent on Scots than English last year- why?

[Huguenot]

Well why don't you find out uncleglen, rather than all this rather destructive innuendo?

[Huguenot]

Re. Lib Dem defections, you'd have to be an ideological chimp to move your vote from the Lib Dems to UKIP. The two parties have virtually no beliefs in common.

You could be disappointed that the Lib Dems hadn't implemented all their manifesto, but to then vote for UKIP would entail supporting a party that shares absolutely none of your beliefs.

Cretinous.

On that note I should add that UKIP clearly don't believe in anything apart from a baseless attack on our closest and most important trading partners. A strategy that could only be justified on the basis of 'divide and conquer'.

So anyone wo really wants to have these witless pricks running our national economy needs to have their head examined.

Some of the views expressed on here about the Lib Dems are so poorly informed that it sounds more like the slack jawed chanting and goading of a football terrace.

Do some people really believe that this is a reasonable way to run a country?

I do think that a foundation tenet of electoral reform should be that an IQ over 70 is required to vote.

[ratty]

Townleygreen Wrote:

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> In case you hadn't noticed, ted, the next election

> is due for 2015. That is forever in politics!

> Everything can change by then.

I guess it is entirely possible that if the cabinet minister, recently publicly backed by our prime minister and now accused of historic sexual abuse against children is outed, there might be an earlier election?

Just saying loike!

[uncleglen]

Some of us H have proper jobs to do and would rather spend the time on that than tracking down useless information.

[Ted Max]

Are we going to play numbers? Let's see who is shooting the most state skag into their ravaged veins?

According to the ONS, it's us Londoners. Gawd love us. Hit me up, Gideon...

http://i45.tinypic.com/34f00p0.jpg

[Loz]

Ridgley Wrote:

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> I am sure they will be hammered at the next election, quite a lot of Limp Dems voters have

> defected to UKIP I very surprised if they get back into a coalition with the Tories.

UKIP get their support from disaffected Tories. BNP from disaffected Labour working class. Green from disaffected Labour and Lib Dem sandal wearers. No one votes for the SWP.

[maxxi]

Loz Wrote:

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> No one votes for the SWP.

I think geography teachers still do.

[Jessie]

I really don't think the disaffected Labour working class vote BNP.