Racially motivated internet posts by PJ Carpet Cleaning

[TheCat]

pk Wrote:

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> TheCat Wrote:

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> > your original post was poorly worded.

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> ?Would it not be better to engage this person?

> Attempt to prove how foolish, ill-informed, and

> prejudiced these views are...??

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> So I ask you how you do that yourself

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> It?s quite simple

I do it all the time.

Probably 90 percent of it is when I engage with you on here....

[Blah Blah]

Indeed Lemming. Methinks any effort to educate PJ Cleaning about the nuances of racism would fall on deaf ears. We too have a vax ;)

[pk]

TheCat Wrote:

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> pk Wrote:

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> > TheCat Wrote:

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> > > your original post was poorly worded.

> >

> > ?Would it not be better to engage this person?

> > Attempt to prove how foolish, ill-informed, and

> > prejudiced these views are...??

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> > So I ask you how you do that yourself

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> > It?s quite simple

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> I do it all the time.

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> Probably 90 percent of it is when I engage with

> you on here....

90% of what you do to fight hate is engage with me on here!?!

What a prat you are

[ED Bird]

Realistically, PK, you should be banned from this forum for being an absolute troll. You're always stalking TheCat around, only to get yourself triggered. It genuinely hurts my head trying to read & make sense of your garbage posts. Go take a walk.

[uncleglen]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> I think it is clear what the PJ Cleaning person

> was referring to in his/ her description of the

> party smells. No-one is fooled by that. Not a

> business I would ever want to employ as a result.

It was the first post that mentioned smells and devil's lettuce (?) is that grass?

[KidKruger]

Why would you even ask that question ?

The Cat was just suggesting that dialogue with a racist might be more fruitful than business assassination.

pk Wrote:

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> > your original post was poorly worded.

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> > "who have you engaged with and proved that

> their

> > views were foolish, ill informed and

> prejudiced??

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> You said:

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> ?Would it not be better to engage this person?

> Attempt to prove how foolish, ill-informed, and

> prejudiced these views are...??

>

> So I ask you how you do that yourself

>

> It?s quite simple

[pk]

ED Bird Wrote:

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> Realistically, PK, you should be banned from this

> forum for being an absolute troll.

you should probably raise this with admin

[pk]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Why would you even ask that question ?

> The Cat was just suggesting that dialogue with a

> racist might be more fruitful than business

> assassination.

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> pk Wrote:

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> > > your original post was poorly worded.

> > >

> > > "who have you engaged with and proved that

> > their

> > > views were foolish, ill informed and

> > prejudiced??

> >

> > You said:

> >

> > ?Would it not be better to engage this person?

> > Attempt to prove how foolish, ill-informed, and

> > prejudiced these views are...??

> >

> > So I ask you how you do that yourself

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> > It?s quite simple

i asked the question because i was curious as to what the person telling others how best to challenge hatred was doing themselves to challenge hatred

i understand now that 90% of what that person does is to engage with me on here

why are you asking me the question you've asked?

[KidKruger]

pk perhaps you misunderstood The Cat's comment:

?Would it not be better to engage this person? Attempt to prove how foolish, ill-informed, and prejudiced these views are...??

The Cat (IMO) is making a suggestion. Not telling anyone to do anything.

So he/she doesn't need a raft of empirical evidence and catalogue of historical examples just to qualify themselves to make a suggestion.

That's why I asked you the question I asked.

[binkylilyput]

I'm glad that people have taken the time to engage with this post- the more the better I think.

I have attempted to engage with P J Carpet Cleaning but, as anticipated, he has not wanted to have a discussion.

I think the both approaches are useful. I am willing to be proactive in challenging racially motivated abuse. I don't care which group of people he was targeting with his comment "deportation of all" and so if, as he later stated, he meant "migrants coming from France" I am as angered as if he openly named black people......and personally suspect this is what he meant.

P J Carpet Cleaning should learn that their racial attacks and threatening words are not supported or tolerated. If their business suffers as a result then that is a life consequence.

In the past I have felt worried about standing up and doing something pro-active about racism. That's not what I want to do any more and I'm working hard to not be complicit when I see it before me.

[TheCat]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> pk perhaps you misunderstood The Cat's comment:

> ?Would it not be better to engage this person?

> Attempt to prove how foolish, ill-informed, and

> prejudiced these views are...??

>

> The Cat (IMO) is making a suggestion. Not telling

> anyone to do anything.

> So he/she doesn't need a raft of empirical

> evidence and catalogue of historical examples just

> to qualify themselves to make a suggestion.

> That's why I asked you the question I asked.

Of course 99% of people would interpret it exactly as you suggest KK. But obviously whenever I post anything PK gets excited, and in PK's haste to label me a 'prat', he/she's just missed the questions marks in the sentence which imply its a suggestion/idea/topic for discussion, and came out looking like a prat him/herself.....

Anyway...apols to the OP that this threa has been somewhat hijacked by someone with no real interest in discussing the topic, but just with a desire to have a pop at me.

[JohnL]

In reality if someone said that in front of me I'd just quietly take my business elsewhere which totally contrasts with my usual complaints for late delivery etc, when I loudly complain but do order again.

I suppose late delivery can be changed you see.

[tomskip]

I started to read the thread. I will of course avoid PJ Carpet Cleaning*. But I very nearly didn't comment and haven't read the whole thread as it's become too tedious, so don't make too much of lots of thread views and very few comments.

*In the past we used a guy called Tony who I think has a long history of recommendations on here. A& something carpet cleaning? I'd make the effort to seek him out again for carpet cleaning - highly recommended.