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I suggest that Southwark Events should be active communicating with ward Councillors to withhold support given the lack of licences? Rather indulgent/perverse of Cllrs to support this given the weddings, funerals, events generally that are barred at present.........


alice Wrote:

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> Yes that is the advice I was given by Southwark

> council today.

Hmmm, a bit confused. There's at least one poster on here who was defending the overnight revellers on Peckham Rye with their sound systems and littering and noise (when other posters were questioning it), yet seems to think a tea dance on a Saturday morning is worth trying to stop.

Inconsistent. Yet consistent.

tomskip Wrote:

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> Yes, contradictory posts about late night/early

> morning gatherings on Dawsons Hill too.


I suspect it's the new sort of politics where everything is seen through the prism of one argument.


But many politicians seem happy with that.

well there is that too....where all-nighters and littering is just kids being kids.


tomskip Wrote:

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> Yes, contradictory posts about late night/early

> morning gatherings on Dawsons Hill too.

It's also an offence to wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway in any way without lawful authority and these events stop people from freely cycling along that road or turning their cars and lorries around as they are entitled to do.

How does having people standing within a blocked off road, one which is closed to motorised traffic but accessible to cyclists and pedestrians stop people turning round lorries????





Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> It's also an offence to wilfully obstructs the

> free passage along a highway in any way without

> lawful authority and these events stop people from

> freely cycling along that road or turning their

> cars and lorries around as they are entitled to

> do.

slarti b Wrote:

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> You seem to have no idea we are in the middle of a

> pandemic. Look at this and tell me if it complies

> with Govt guidelines and rules about public

> events.

>

> https://twitter.com/DulwichSquare/status/129223098

> 1877891074




That is the funniest thread I have seen in a while.


Sadly, but unsuprisingly, the labour councillors are all on board,

so I cannot see turning to them for help being of any help at all.

Despite constantly commenting, it appears you?ve never been to the closure. It?s blocked off at calton, dulwich village and court. It?s not a turning circle. The part where they are standing is no motorised vehicles!





Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> If you wanted to drive your lorry down CAlton

> Avenue, pick up an ice cream and then turn around

> and go home again, it would bee rather tricky with

> all these people sitting on deckchairs int he

> middle of the turning space

The ideas around streets are changing. If the street is a living space where people can do a mixture of things it is no longer simply a highway with parking space. I know this subject is highly charged and I don't want to add fuel to the fire. But it is worth imagining the way streets could change.


The idea of traffic 'evaporation' is well documented and worth believing in.


https://londonlivingstreets.com/2019/07/11/evaporating-traffic-impact-of-low-traffic-neighbourhoods-on-main-roads/

andrewc Wrote:

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> The ideas around streets are changing. If the

> street is a living space where people can do a

> mixture of things it is no longer simply a highway

> with parking space. I know this subject is highly

> charged and I don't want to add fuel to the fire.

> But it is worth imagining the way streets could

> change.

>

> The idea of traffic 'evaporation' is well

> documented and worth believing in.

>

> https://londonlivingstreets.com/2019/07/11/evapora

> ting-traffic-impact-of-low-traffic-neighbourhoods-

> on-main-roads/



And anyone who studied geography will tell you when something evaporates it condenses and then falls as rain elsewhere....which is exactly what these closures cause....

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