Habitualbridesmaid Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Today was a novel experience. Whilst walking my dog round the outside of Dulwich Park, three lads, all teens, two pale pink and one light brown of African descent, threatened me. The first lad rode directly at me on the wood chip footpath leading up from the small copse by the cricket nets. He caused me to protect myself, then his mate, clearly the ring leader decided to offer his help. Being in the path and slightly isolated, I headed into the middle of the park, if anything is to happen, best to be seen. At this juncture, I stood my ground, what followed was a verbal assault with anyone of the 3 lads advancing to within a few metres. One took of his belt and started waiving it around. Nothing was happening, but I felt quite worried about my own safety and walked away, the three of them followed for about 20-30 yards causing me to turn and face them to avoid being blindsided.I told the park ranger when I got nearer the path who was up by the gate. It would seem there had been problems with the short fat one dressed all in black sweats. Other then report this to the park ranger which has already been done, what should we do?Is this something we should report to the police? They are kids, whilst I have sympathy for them and everyone else during this period, why should we feel threatened by a wanton minority, and made to feel insecure now every time I walk into the park. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I would report this to the police, saying you also told the park ranger. Threatening behaviour, which, as you describe it, this clearly was, cannot be acceptable, even and perhaps especially in these strange times - and the next victim might not be as lucky as you were to escape unscathed. You don't mention how old these boys were, I'm assuming young teenagers, but whatever age report it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitualbridesmaid Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 Done Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Well done. Sorry you had such a horrible experience.Habitualbridesmaid Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Done Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWave Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Habitualbridesmaid Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> DoneSo glad you reported it! well done.I had 2 lads on bikes cycling round and round me sniggering cycling off then returning again with one of them cycling alongside me whilst his friend cycled round in circles-This was in the mid afternoon in east dulwich on the pavement (well one was on pavement the other mainly cycled in the kerb)Thinking I was about to be robbed I hugged my bag to me and rushed to the nearest bus shelter where I could see people-It really shook me up.I never reported it because in my case nothing actually happened aside from their behaviour being designed to make me feel uneasy and threatened..probably for their own amusement (scare the old woman) But It ruined my day shook me up and has put me off going for the walks in the area that I used to enjoy so much Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitualbridesmaid Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 If you saw them would you recognise them?I saw three boysOne tall white wiry boy with longish brown hair. White TShirt, second lad was shorter, much stockier and quite fat, wearing black sweat hoodie and pants, third lad had a light brown skin. Quite skinny with glasses.I?ve reported it to police, 2 of them I?ve seen around the ED area before and I?ve kept a wide berth. The taller one mentioned something about a knife which is what prompted me to walk to the middle of the park. It?s not easy to avoid someone when they ride directly at you.Sorry to hear about your experience. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilolil Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 This is on Facebook. Might not be the same boys.https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158019537578937&id=723853936 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitualbridesmaid Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 I would bet on it being the same lads, but size is relative. The blonde lad was chubby with a straight fringe cut. I?d recognise them again. The police have been notified, if it?s the same boys then there is a pattern emerging. I saw the same boys a few days ago on Santander bikes in and around Dulwich Park. I gave them a wide berth.Let?s hope they get caught. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWave Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Habitualbridesmaid Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> If you saw them would you recognise them?> I saw three boys> One tall white wiry boy with longish brown hair.> White TShirt, second lad was shorter, much> stockier and quite fat, wearing black sweat hoodie> and pants, third lad was coloured with a light> brown skin. Quite skinny with glasses.> > I?ve reported it to police, 2 of them I?ve seen> around the ED area before and I?ve kept a wide> berth. The taller one mentioned something about a> knife which is what prompted me to walk to the> middle of the park. It?s not easy to avoid someone> when they ride directly at you.> > Sorry to hear about your experience.I probably would recognise them-it wasn't your lads.and thank you. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitualbridesmaid Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 Let?s see what the police have to say about it. The same lads were on Santander bikes a few days ago whilst I walked the dog. My bet is that they are the same. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growlybear Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I?m sorry to hear you had an unsettling experience. But I?m very surprised that no-one else has mentioned that the use of the word ?coloured? is a term that many people find extremely offensive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laur Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Very shocked by the response your friend got from the police, Lilolil. I?d make an official complaint if I were her. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growlybear Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Habitualbridesmaid - if you want to take issue with my comment, I would much rather you did so on this thread rather than send me a private message. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnijade Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Sorry this happened to you but don?t use the term ?coloured?. This isn?t the 50s and that word is so extremely offensive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilolil Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Monkey Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Very shocked by the response your friend got from> the police, Lilolil. I?d make an official> complaint if I were her.I don't know the family. There was a shared post on Facebook and I wasn't sure if it was linked. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zig-Zag Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I'm sorry you had this horrible frightening experience. I'm an older woman and walk most days in the park and agree it is becoming a scary place at times with young poeple trying to be menacing, and the feel of the park has changed a lot since I first lived here...for the worse!!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontbesilly Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Can you not just scare them off? For example, say you had something in your possession that you would rather not use but will if they do not go away and leave you alone? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 dontbesilly Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Can you not just scare them off? For example, say> you had something in your possession that you> would rather not use but will if they do not go> away and leave you alone?I've shouted loudly at youngsters - unfortunately all you're doing is saying I'm a difficult victim and they'll go off to find a n easier victim - that's not solving the issue. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1435979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froglander Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Very sorry to hear this. I hope these toe rags are caught. The correct name of the park is Dulwich Park, not ED Or East Dulwich Park. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1436048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringTime Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 But you're still right to challenge them John - they might think twice about if there's a next timeJohnL Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> dontbesilly Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Can you not just scare them off? For example,> say> > you had something in your possession that you> > would rather not use but will if they do not go> > away and leave you alone?> > > I've shouted loudly at youngsters - unfortunately> all you're doing is saying I'm a difficult victim> and they'll go off to find a n easier victim -> that's not solving the issue. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/258055-feeling-unsafe-in-ed-park/#findComment-1436118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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