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macroban Wrote:

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> > the mouthpiece of Lord Snooty's giant poisoned

> electric head

>

> Oh dear!

>

> How very middle class courtesy of Mayall and God

> and the fashion thus created.


Err...Viv Stanshall actually.

Middle-class


Making lists of allegedly working-class characteristics and then smugly insisting one is being ironic, not smug...:))


(Why does this thread remind me of those Cleese/Barker?Corbett sketches on David Frost's programme all those years ago...?)


SimonM (unclassifiable, although not a toff)

SimonM Wrote:

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> Making lists of allegedly working-class

> characteristics and then smugly insisting one is

> being ironic, not smug...:))


Simon, let me assure you that in my case (tinned salmon with a bit of vinegar in it, Vienetta Ice Cream, darning, dandelion & Burdock, condensed milk, having to stand in the kitchen sink to have a wash, Princes' tinned ham, watching snooker on a b&w television, woodbines) I was simply describing the usual Sunday at my Gran and Grandads place.

So now there is only one zone that doesn't have it's own exclusive list and that's the underclass.

How about

1.joyriding and setting cars on fire

2.drinking extremely cheap lager al fresco , though without the table and chair to sit on. More the kind of alfresco that.involves walking down the street can in hand.

4.Listening to very loud nose bleed inducing techno at all hours of the day and night

5.having a fridge in what passes as a front or back garden

6.having a washing machine in the same garden

7.putting soiled nappies down the toilet

8.Attending your court case in tracksuit trousers and a football top

falcao Wrote:

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> 1.joyriding and setting cars on fire

> 2.drinking extremely cheap lager al fresco ,

> though without the table and chair to sit on. More

> the kind of alfresco that 3.involves walking down

> the street can in hand.

> 4.Listening to very loud nose bleed inducing

> techno at all hours of the day and night


Those can hardly be assigned to one particular "class"

How would we classify 'Criminal class' as it has to incorporate local MPs, a large amount of people who work in the upper echelons of financial management, a few fraudulent professionals, most of the estate agents, all the students, petty thieves, heroine addicts, any council tenants who fraudulently claim benefits, not so petty thieves and Michael Palaeologus for public lewdness in the Quiet Room.

Brendan Wrote:

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> How would we classify 'Criminal class' as it has

> to incorporate local MPs, a large amount of people

> who work in the upper echelons of financial

> management, a few fraudulent professionals, most

> of the estate agents, all the students, petty

> thieves, heroine addicts, any council tenants who

> fraudulently claim benefits, not so petty thieves

> and Michael Palaeologus for public lewdness in the

> Quiet Room.


tax evasion and embezzlement are in fact already on there

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