COVID-19 Fact or Fiction?

[JohnL]

That one made snopes yesterday - maybe getting on there is the aim

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/captain-america-coronavirus-pandemic/

[seenbeen]

2011- same year as the Contagion film which Scott Z Burns was inspires by the 2002 outbreak...the final scene kind of sums things up a bit

at 3:26

[seenbeen]

Yes- the WHO cannot be trusted

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454473/David-Cameron-says-failed-coronavirus-slow-worried-upsetting-China.html

[JohnL]

Never mind David Bowie, Superman and Prince leaving the Earth but look to the left :)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/prince-david-bowie-may-returned-160441246.html

[seenbeen]

Very interesting stuff about Covid from Matt Ridley....specifically starts at about 35 minutes in.

[peckman]

Are you real robbie ? Trump is an absolute tool ! He may of scored 99.9 percent (although I dont think you score a percent) on an IQ test. Unfortunately it was the idiot not intelligence version

[Sephiroth]

?Our social media?

Not sure who ?us? is in this sentence but it can?t conceivably mean the whole world including totalitarian regimes with very different ?social media?

It seems unlikely that the whole world has the threat wrong

[Spartacus]

JamesR777 Wrote:

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> My opinion is that such virus exist and is

> dangerous but our social media exaggerates

> everything

Is that all social media or just here on the edf ?

[seenbeen]

The figures that worry me most are the number of people that catch the virus each day which apparently has gone down from 3,800 PER DAY to 2,400 per day. Add to that the symptom-less but contagious and the people who have it but carry on regardless (like a man in Sainsbury's car park a couple of weeks ago who was coughing continuously as he loaded his car and put his trolley back...making no effort to contain the coughing which sounded different to any cough I've ever heard before- and he was red in the face and sweating!)

So it is no surprise that spikes are cropping up everywhere.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8650873/Is-Englands-Covid-19-outbreak-finally-shrinking-good-ONS-estimates-2-400-new-cases-day.html?ito=push-notification&ci=29265&si=13475645

there is no room for complacency imo

[JohnL]

seenbeen Wrote:

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> The figures that worry me most are the number of

> people that catch the virus each day which

> apparently has gone down from 3,800 PER DAY to

> 2,400 per day. Add to that the symptom-less but

> contagious and the people who have it but carry on

> regardless (like a man in Sainsbury's car park a

> couple of weeks ago who was coughing continuously

> as he loaded his car and put his trolley

> back...making no effort to contain the coughing

> which sounded different to any cough I've ever

> heard before- and he was red in the face and

> sweating!)

> So it is no surprise that spikes are cropping up

> everywhere.

>

> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8650873/I

> s-Englands-Covid-19-outbreak-finally-shrinking-goo

> d-ONS-estimates-2-400-new-cases-day.html?ito=push-

> notification&ci=29265&si=13475645

>

> there is no room for complacency imo

Don't always blame coughers - I had some red wine go down the wrong way last night and coughed for 10 minutes :(

[diable rouge]

Lots of reasons for someone to cough, hay fever for one this time of year, and as for ''red in the face and sweating'', weren't we in the middle of a heatwave two weeks ago?

Makes me wonder why we bother with the NHS when we have the likes of Mr Been among us who can diagnose from afar...

[Spartacus]

What is driving me crazy, is the Nay Sayers that are now getting air time

For example this is a twitter link relating to Oldham

stating that out of 1252 hospital beds in Oldham only 9 have covid patients in and that the public health authorities are out of control. (The number of cases in the community is a more useful comparison rather than cases needing hospital care)

Yesterday nationally it was reported over 1,182 New cases up from 812 on Thursday.

Statistics show that there is a rising no of cases yet there is a growing movement to say health authorities are out of control issuing local restrictions.

Only a few months ago the press was leading a charge, supported by many, to say that the government wasn't quick enough to react when cases were going up and that the lock down was imposed too late. Now people are saying why are you locking down where I live because only 9 people are in hospital with Covid.

What the actual fluck goes on in people's minds ? If hospitalisation and or deaths increase in places like Oldham it will be the governments fault, not the fact that people are ignoring the rules or objecting to lock down. Yet if the authorities step in people complain.

All along with this pandemic, people aren't taking responsibility for their own actions and the effects it has on others and look for scapegoats. "It's DC's fault he broke the rules so I can" or "cases are low here so why should I follow what the authorities are advising."

Logically If everyone had followed the rules and minimised going out during lock down, then the virus would have diminished in a matter of weeks (if it can't be transmitted due to a lack of contact it won't complete it's cycle of infection, transmission and infecting others) so obviously people are responsible for its transmission, not the authorities.

Why are humans so complacent until something directly effects them then they look for a scapegoat rather than taking responsibility for their own actions?

[ianr]

> then they look for a scapegoat rather than

> taking responsibility for their own actions

It doesn't matter what we do now it's being spread by the rats. They're trained and controlled by the Russians or Chinese, quite likely both of them.

@FelixHA, I've been admiring your posting efficiency in https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/uc/post/950932. Twenty posts in less than ten minutes elapsed time, that's going some. Do you live north of the Dulwich turnpike?

[seenbeen]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> Lots of reasons for someone to cough, hay fever

> for one this time of year, and as for ''red in the

> face and sweating'', weren't we in the middle of a

> heatwave two weeks ago?

> Makes me wonder why we bother with the NHS when we

> have the likes of Mr Been among us who can

> diagnose from afar...

As I said it sounded like no cough I've ever heard before and I've been around asthmatics, whooping cough, people with COPD and bronchitis etc for decades...anyone care to comment on the 'Covid 19 Dry Cough'

[JohnL]

Well the cough I had back in February when it spread like wildfire through our office was just a normal cough - but persistent (you coughed a lot).

No proof it was Covid.

[seenbeen]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Well the cough I had back in February when it

> spread like wildfire through our office was just a

> normal cough - but persistent (you coughed a

> lot).

>

> No proof it was Covid.

What, you mean no-one got a test? Anyway since you refer to your cough as 'normal' I guess you recognised it as a common-or-garden variety of cough?

[seenbeen]

No light at the end of the vaccine tunnel- no surprise to me since they didn't find one for SARS Covid back in 2002 despite tons of research.

Xmas is cancelled by the looks of it

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/coronavirus-vaccine-winter-chris-whitty-a4531171.html

[Jah Lush]

A cat has come down with Covid-19. Don't ask meow.

[j.a.]

FelixHA Wrote:

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> I think this is the work of masons or illuminati

> and in future we should expect something more

> dangerous

> It is my deal what I do and how much I comment

If you need to buy more tinfoil in bulk, can I ask that you get it from Farmers? They?re a great independent who we should support, and I?m sure they?ll do you a discount.

You?re plainly going through a lot...

[Spartacus]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> A cat has come down with Covid-19. Don't ask meow.

OMG

The poor kitty , will it recover ?

If dogs get it do they feel wruff ?

[TheArtfulDogger]

If frogs catch it will they get better or croak?

[JohnL]

seenbeen Wrote:

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> JohnL Wrote:

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> > Well the cough I had back in February when it

> > spread like wildfire through our office was just

> a

> > normal cough - but persistent (you coughed a

> > lot).

> >

> > No proof it was Covid.

> What, you mean no-one got a test? Anyway since you

> refer to your cough as 'normal' I guess you

> recognised it as a common-or-garden variety of

> cough?

It was February and it wasn't even supposed to be in the UK - any response to test requests at that time would have been - "there is no danger of covid in the UK unless you have been abroad recently". A lot of people have since said the same sort of thing happened in Dec-Feb - but no tests no proof.

[ianr]

FelixHA wrote:

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> ianr Wrote:

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>> It doesn't matter what we do now

>> it's being spread by the rats.

>> They're trained and controlled by

>> the Russians or Chinese, quite

>> likely both of them.

>> @FelixHA, I've been admiring

>> your posting efficiency in

>> https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/uc/post/950932

>

>> Twenty posts in less than

>> ten minutes elapsed

>> time, that's going some. Do

>> you live north of the

>> Dulwich turnpike?

>

> I think this is the work of

> masons or illuminati

> and in future we should

> expect something more

> dangerous

> It is my deal what I do

> and how much I comment

Now you're conversing with us, can you at least let us know how much one can get for inserting paid links, and where such assignments can be picked up.

[seenbeen]

Not according to this timeline- and how many had already left China and come here with no symptoms?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_Kingdom

and this one was in London on 8th Feb!

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/18274629.coronavirus-patient-visited-lewisham-e-uber-recovers/

[JohnL]

While the government was obsessed with people from abroad (returning or visiting) bringing Covid to the UK in February - it was already here and transmitting among Londoners IMHO.

They were already well behind what was happening.