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ianr

ianr

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se22cat wrote

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> Maybe this might help clear LL of morons...


> https://twitter.com/mahishasuraa/status/1241760953311432704


I think it would be helpful, as always, if you give a short summary or indication of what the link is about. Doubly helpful here, when the link is, at least for me, currently unreachable.

JohnL

JohnL

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KidKruger Wrote:

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> It's basically some (what look like) Indian police

> with their long sticks thrashing culprits who've

> contravened traffic rules or caught their

> attention for the wrong reason. Nothing heavy,

> just a few solid thwacks with their thrashing

> sticks.


They're aiming for the backside of 'offenders' but can't see it happening in LL :)

seenbeen

seenbeen

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The death toll has jumped again- it's the builders using public transport travelling in from poorer areas- a lot of them are probably paid cash in hand and will have nothing as they are not on any system to receive aid....this is probably why they have NOT been banned from work. What happened at Canning Town during the Extinction Rebellion protests is an indication of where and who they are- we are heading for the worst case scenario I fear
JohnL

JohnL

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seenbeen Wrote:

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> The death toll has jumped again- it's the builders

> using public transport travelling in from poorer

> areas- a lot of them are probably paid cash in

> hand and will have nothing as they are not on any

> system to receive aid....this is probably why they

> have NOT been banned from work. What happened at

> Canning Town during the Extinction Rebellion

> protests is an indication of where and who they

> are- we are heading for the worst case scenario I

> fear


I think there's maybe a 30% chance millions of us have it (I wouldn't be surprised).


Still have no idea how long it lingers, if you gain immunity, if it can return, how long it takes to recover and what the symptoms of the dangerous part of the disease are and when they could come (I heard day 12 previously)

ianr

ianr

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JohnL wrote:

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> Still have no idea how long it lingers,

> if you gain immunity, if it can return,

> how long it takes to recover and what

> the symptoms of the dangerous part of

> the disease are and when they could

> come (I heard day 12 previously)


Have you read the paper you linked to at https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,2096178,2103021#msg-2103021? :) There are some nicely digestible tables and graphics even if you you don't want plough through it all, which cover some of your items. Near the bottom of the HTML page there's a link to a PDF download, which I find a lot easier to handle. There may well be other papers now. One of the presenters on BBC Inside Science this week reckoned, I'm not sure whether half-jokingly, that there about forty a day emerging at the moment. That edition covers quite a few listeners' questions, and talks to several researchers. Well worth a listen I think. Hearable and downloadable at https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000glnw. Actually I see that the downloadable podcast is fifty percent longer than the 28 minute off-air recording I have, so I'm getting that too.

seenbeen

seenbeen

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JohnL wrote "I think there's maybe a 30% chance millions of us have it (I wouldn't be surprised)."


Yes you are probably right but the problem is that if the 30% go around willy-nilly infecting people then some vulnerable people will get very sick and end up in hospital on ventilators, key workers get sick and cannot do their jobs- the NHS collapses (after all covid sufferers are not the ONLY sick people), law and order may collapse, food and medicines cannot be supplied - hence the need to social distance and prevent unnecessary travel and contact- travel passes need to be issued to essential workers

pk

pk

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seenbeen Wrote:

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> JohnL wrote "I think there's maybe a 30% chance

> millions of us have it (I wouldn't be

> surprised)."

>

> Yes you are probably right but the problem is that

> if the 30% go around willy-nilly infecting people

> then some vulnerable people will get very sick

> and end up in hospital on ventilators, key

> workers get sick and cannot do their jobs- the

> NHS collapses (after all covid sufferers are not

> the ONLY sick people), law and order may collapse,

> food and medicines cannot be supplied - hence the

> need to social distance and prevent unnecessary

> travel and contact- travel passes need to be

> issued to essential workers



One of you is saying that there?s a 30% chance ?millions have it?


One of you seems to be saying probably 30% of people have it


But do either of you have any basis for saying either of those things?

dbboy

dbboy

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From : https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases


"Number of cases


As of 9am on 27 March 2020, a total of 113,777 people have been tested, of which 99,198 were confirmed negative and 14,579 were confirmed positive.


As of 5pm on 26 March 2020, 759 patients in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus (COVID-19) have died.


The figures for test results and for deaths are compiled from different sources. This is why the figures for deaths are reported from an earlier point in time than the figures for test results."

JohnL

JohnL

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pk Wrote:

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> seenbeen Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > JohnL wrote "I think there's maybe a 30% chance

> > millions of us have it (I wouldn't be

> > surprised)."

> >

> > Yes you are probably right but the problem is

> that

> > if the 30% go around willy-nilly infecting

> people

> > then some vulnerable people will get very sick

> > and end up in hospital on ventilators, key

> > workers get sick and cannot do their jobs- the

> > NHS collapses (after all covid sufferers are

> not

> > the ONLY sick people), law and order may

> collapse,

> > food and medicines cannot be supplied - hence

> the

> > need to social distance and prevent unnecessary

> > travel and contact- travel passes need to be

> > issued to essential workers

>

>

> One of you is saying that there?s a 30% chance

> ?millions have it?

>

> One of you seems to be saying probably 30% of

> people have it

>

> But do either of you have any basis for saying

> either of those things?


No - just my gut feeling from all the info you get on TV.

pk

pk

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Yeah gut feel is all you can go with I suppose (applying what little fact there is)


On gut feel, I?d say it?s very likely that millions of people have contracted the virus, maybe many millions


As to percentage of population, I?ve no idea


Scarily literally nobody knows, but what?s going on at excel def says that things could get really bad

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