Brexit has Officially become UK Law

[edcam]

LOL!

FreyaMikaelson Wrote:

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> A bitter divide created by the left. All they are

> is bitter and intolerant.

[DulwichFox]

During two World Wars Million of people died to stop this country being run by a someone else.

Then 30 or so years after the end of WW2 we gave this country over to the E.U.. to run our affairs and

dictate and sanction our Laws.

What always puzzled be was that IF we were a full member of the E.U. Why did we not adopt the Euro ?

The only ?? country in the E.U. having to Exchange Currency at great expense every time we travelled to Europe.

Well now once again WE can make our own Laws and Run our Country.

DulwichFox

[pk]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> During two World Wars Million of people died to

> stop this country being run by a someone else.

>

> Then 30 or so years after the end of WW2 we gave

> this country over to the E.U.. to run our affairs

> and

> dictate and sanction our Laws.

>

> What always puzzled be was that IF we were a full

> member of the E.U. Why did we not adopt the Euro

> ?

> The only ?? country in the E.U. having to

> Exchange Currency at great expense every time we

> travelled to Europe.

>

> Well now once again WE can make our own Laws and

> Run our Country.

>

> DulwichFox

clueless

[KidKruger]

? KidKruger Wrote:

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> Well aren?t we the lucky ones.

> At least Brexit exposed the right-wing element in

> UK once and for all.

> We know how big it is and how severely corrupted

> people can be through lies and manipulation.

Replace 'right-wing element' with 'rabid champagne socialist ignorant element' then you will be correct....?

Nice one.

Just start with loads of insults and generalisations in response to a reasonable observation !

[KidKruger]

? Well now once again WE can make our own Laws and Run our Country?

We already did run our own country !

Though to be fair, the Daily Mail and Farage did say we don?t run our own country, so perhaps you got your view from them ?

DulwichFox, if your view is not formed from the above sources then where do you get this view, pls ?

Can you give examples of us not being able to run our own country ?

I?m serious - DO respond to my questions, because I hate to think I?ve missed something here.

[edcam]

Unfortunately Dulwich Fox personifies the ill-informed attitude of a vast number of people in this country, who fundamentally misunderstand the nature of our EU membership. This mythical "masters of our own destiny" bollox is what people were told to believe and believe it they did, in their droves.

Now it will be interesting to see who they blame as we struggle through the next phase and beyond.

I'll never fully understand how so many people were hoodwinked into accepting the gun they were offered and then happily shot themselves in the foot.

[DulwichFox]

Anyone who likes the way The E.U. works..

Please transfer your life savings into my Bank Account.

I will send you regular payments in return and instruct you as to what you can and what you cannot spend the money on.

I will need to charge you an yearly administration fee to cover my costs.. :)

Fox

[Sephiroth]

The ignorance on display from foxy is breathtaking

None of what he says is remotely connected with reality

But let?s ask the question anyway. Why would countries like Northern Ireland and Scotland vote to remain if what he says is true?

[Sephiroth]

English doddery old men banging on about rule from afar when the 3 other nations in the UK only this week rejected the governments WA, only to be ignored

Repulsive

[Loutwo]

But, we are a UNITED Kingdom, therefore, no one cares what anyone outside of England thinks within this union. England makes up 85% of the population, so let?s just stop whining and whinging about everyone else as if they?re equal in this partnership. As long as the older generation get their freedom back, everyone else can go and suck ice pops.

Meanwhile, in the real world (England outside London), the most important issue remains whether enough money can be crowd funded for Big Ben to chime on Brexit Day. Priorities please people.

Louisa.

[Alan Medic]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> During two World Wars Million of people died to

> stop this country being run by a someone else.

>

> Then 30 or so years after the end of WW2 we gave

> this country over to the E.U.. to run our affairs

> and

> dictate and sanction our Laws.

>

> What always puzzled be was that IF we were a full

> member of the E.U. Why did we not adopt the Euro

> ?

> The only ?? country in the E.U. having to

> Exchange Currency at great expense every time we

> travelled to Europe.

>

> Well now once again WE can make our own Laws and

> Run our Country.

>

> DulwichFox

This is vomit inducing. No further comment.

[Sue]

You have been ill, haven't you, Dulwich Fox?

Are you looking forward to the ?350,O00,000 per week (was it? Whatever was on the front of that bus that Boris Johnson posed in front of) that the NHS is going to "gain" when we leave the E.U.?

It wasn't true. Was it?

[KidKruger]

DulwichFox, if your view is not formed from the above sources (see my post earlier ) then where do you get this view, pls ?

Can you give examples of us not being able to run our own country ?

I'm waiting for your examples. If you're confident enough to say what you've said, where are your examples ?!

If you refuse to advise me please just say so (and perhaps a reason why you won't elaborate).

I for one will appreciate reading the examples of how the UK hasn't been able to run itself.

[KidKruger]

Sue Wrote:

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> You have been ill, haven't you, Dulwich Fox?

>

> Are you looking forward to the ?350,000 per week

> (was it? Whatever was on the front of that bus

> that Boris Johnson posed in front of) that the NHS

> is going to "gain" when we leave the E.U.?

>

> It wasn't true. Was it?

Sue, it was ?350 MILLION. Of course, no-one currently believes that, which qualifies it as a lie.

A lie for which BoJo has not had to answer for - even though a chap tried to take him to court for lying.

(not ?350K !)

[Sue]

Thanks KK, I will edit my post (senility strikes again :)) )

[DulwichFox]

The pertinent numbers for the debate in 2016 were those for 2014 and 2015,

which are slightly above ?350 Million.

actualy in 2014 The Gross Contribution to The E.U. was actually ?361 Million - Weekly

and in 2015 The Gross Contribution to The E.U. was actually ?376Million - Weekly

As far as the gross contribution was concerned, Boris and the Leavers were not being in any way dishonest or misleading.

DulwichFox

[KidKruger]

DulwichFox,

Can you give examples of us not being able to run our own country ?

Or is silence your way of conceding you don't actually have any examples ?

[DulwichFox]

Does EU law supersede UK law?

Yes, and it has done since 1972, when Parliament passed the European Communities Act.

Since then, if there has been a conflict between national law and European law, the UK courts have to give priority to European law.6 Nov 2006

[diable rouge]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> The pertinent numbers for the debate in 2016 were

> those for 2014 and 2015,

> which are slightly above ?350 Million.

>

> actualy in 2014 The Gross Contribution to The

> E.U. was actually ?361 Million - Weekly

> and in 2015 The Gross Contribution to The

> E.U. was actually ?376Million - Weekly

>

> As far as the gross contribution was concerned,

> Boris and the Leavers were not being in any way

> dishonest or misleading.

>

> DulwichFox

Wrong, the rebate is taken off the ?350m before it's paid, i.e. we paid ?250m up front.

We never paid ?350m up front, so it was misleading to state that figure would be going to the NHS instead of the EU.

The independent UK Statistics Authority described it as ?a clear misuse of official statistics?.

As well as the rebate the UK also got other monies back from the EU, bringing the ?250m figure down further...

[KidKruger]

DulwichFox,

Can you give examples of us not being able to run our own country ?

[DulwichFox]

I do not myself believe that any money sent to the E.U. would automatically go to the NHS.

It it is money that could be used anywhere else.

It could be used to put more Police on the street to help fight Knife crime.

We can now spend that money where we need it.

Not to prosecute market traders that sell Spuds by the Pound and not by the Kilo.

Petty E.U laws we had to pay for.

[KidKruger]

DulwichFox,

Can you give examples of us not actually being able to run our own country ?

[diable rouge]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> We can now spend that money where we need it.

'That money' brought business into the UK and therefore created jobs with subsequent taxes paid, which then could've been spent on the Police etc if the Gov of the day had been so inclined. They weren't...

[keano77]

I?m keeping out of this thread as many of the posts above are so 2016 and 2017 and 2018 and 2019.

It?s a new decade folks, shake hands and take advantage of all the opportunities ahead.

PS if ?the rebate is taken off the ?350m before it's paid, i.e. we paid ?250m up front...? then it?s not a rebate - it?s an abatement

[Blah Blah]

Yes Dulwich Fox, how does the EU prevent us running our own country? I could swear that when I got to any other country within the EU that they are all different to each other. I never once get confused as to where I am.

You are writing absolute piffle. Only 13 per cent of UK law is impacted by EU directives and more specifically in the areas of trading compliance and workforce protections. Every single trade deal in the world, has aspects of compliance written into it btw, which you would know if you knew anything about trade agreements. But you don't and because of that, you have put a whole raft of trade and jobs at risk so that you could get rid of 'free movement'. There is a reason why Farage focused on that and appealed to base xenophobia (foreigners are responsible for all our woes) as the scapegoat for policy that our own governments imposed. It is because people like you are too lazy to look past 40 years of deliberately misleading headlines from a mainly right wing press that doesn't want you to have a balanced fact based opinion. You have been conned. It is just a question of when, not if, you begin to understand that.