ATM Machine Dulwich 14/07

[rayo]

Did anybody get their card swallowed in Dulwich on saturday night and subsequently their Bank AC emptied in the prevailing few hours.

My card got swallowed at 0015 ish and the account emptied in the next 12 hours

I did notice all the machines were still out of service this morning as I passed!

Depressedddddddddddd

[the-e-dealer]

Was it the Barclays CP again. They dont seem to care!

[rayo]

Im still in a bit of shock as I only noticed 30 mins ago online.

It was HSBC im pretty sure but all the machines were out except one

?300 immediately taken at Tesco in ED and then the rest in Lewisham!

This is the second time I have been done I cant understand why nothing happens...........this guy could be chased at real ease on CCTV

[Loz]

Do you cover your hand entering your PIN, even if there is no one else around?

[the-e-dealer]

This is Skimmer I found on Barclays cashpoint - Twice !

[ianr]

Thanks for the reminder. I've just put my card provider's 24hr number on my phone. Do banks display their own number near their ATMs?

[the-e-dealer]

I don't understand why a simple measure couldn't be implemented. IE display (on the newer Machines) a picture of what CP is supposed to look like.

[DulwichFox]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> This is Skimmer I found on Barclays cashpoint -

> Twice !

Hi .....

I have seen some sort of Green Dome shaped thing on one of the machines outside Barclays.

It is always there so I assumed it was there to prevent rogue devices being attatched.

Fox

[StraferJack]

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[rayo]

The machines are out of action several times at weekends I think from memory so this must be happening wholesale! I cant understand why somebody cant sit on CCTV for 10 minutes look at HSBC look at Tesco CCTV and look at whatever garage in Lewisham the person bought petrol at and hey presto guy is caught!

[Salsaboy]

Because it's cheaper for the banks to pay you out your stolen money than try and catch the people who stole it.

[EDOliver]

Did anyone see the recent documentary about this?? 95% are organised Romanian gangs making ?100,000's a month. The show featured ATM's in central London (Mayfair etc) and the techniques used were incredible! Basically when you're using an ATM look around and make sure someone isn't looking over your shoulder as you punch in your pin. Once they have it they'll distract you, grab the card (not the money though) and calmy walk away. By the time you realise what's happened you're a few hundred quid lighter. That's just one of the many techniques they use

[rayo]

No didnt see the documentary but I can see how they make ?100k+. When your card is swallowed you presume it doesnt come back out and hence on a saturday night you dont report it! I know now that is silly but thats how it is.

Those machines in Dulwich are always with issues especially at the weekend. I got a taxi to stansted at 4am the other saturday and this well shady person persisted standing behind me as I got cash out in the machine on the corner of Barclays.........ok nothing happened but at that hour of the day she had about 7 other machines to go to to use but for some reason wanted the one I was at!

Im still amazed why these people arent tracked my card was taken in dulwich the bank must have CCTV and used in Tesco 5 minutes later near peckham rye and then 2 x jewellers in Lewisham...........they even bought something for ?8 in a sainsburys...........perhaps they were peckish!

[eucalyptus]

How can your bank acc have been emptied BEFORE your card was taken?

[StraferJack]

It has happened to my partner, and isn't fun, but some people do seem to get a bit hysterical about this

It is neither practical or cost effective to put pictures on every cashpoint with a pic of a skimmer - criminals will constantly change the look of them and render any picture redundant - even if people took the time to read the warning. Which they wouldn't (they don't even take the time to read the options - "Cash with or without receipt? doesn't matter I'll just press with receipt and leave it hanging out of machine anyway? Someone elses problem innit")

It's a low-tech crime with an even lower-tech solution. Just shield your hand when you input your pin. That's it. No effort, no fuss

CCTV isn't monitored live by a crew of security guards - there isn't a way for people to be "spotted" and then followed to Tescos or whatever.

[the-e-dealer]

They don't need to put a picture of a skimmer up. The can put a picture of WHAT the machine should look like. Its bleeding obvious.

And they can skim your card and use it without the pin. Shielding it doesnt mean you are safe.

[eucalyptus]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> CCTV isn't monitored live by a crew of security

> guards - there isn't a way for people to be

> "spotted" and then followed to Tescos or whatever.

Can see the Sun headline now - 'Crims rip off bank and spend ill-gotten gains in mad spree at Tesco'

[StraferJack]

@ eucalyptus

i was quoting from an earlier post

"Im still amazed why these people arent tracked my card was taken in dulwich the bank must have CCTV and used in Tesco 5 minutes later near peckham rye "

[the-e-dealer]

eucalyptus Wrote:

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> How can your bank acc have been emptied BEFORE

> your card was taken?

If the Bank is robbed I suppose? why do you ask?

[KalamityKel]

When using a machine you should always be aware who is standing around you. It's not just "shady" people you should worry about. Even "normal" looking people could be up to no good...

[Dopamine1979]

KalamityKel Wrote:

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> When using a machine you should always be aware

> who is standing around you. It's not just "shady"

> people you should worry about. Even "normal"

> looking people could be up to no good...

I normally look shady but am a generally good egg.

[EDOliver]

Maybe with the Olympics coming up we should be more worried about this lovely lot! Scary stuff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18798792

[rgutsell]

Hiya all

I've had this happen to me too.

The problem is the cards. They are too simple, and the only way they are connected to the owner is the PIN number.

I am sure that technology will develop a means that enables the owner to use something that more securely connects the card to the holder, such as iris recognition using wide angled lenses (not invented yet!) or even bar coded human beings! Or biological sampling...such as finger print, or even advanced facial image recognition.

[Penguin68]

The problem with using finger prints to validate cards is that all the criminal needs is your finger. A bit more of an effort than just gabbing the card but, hey, where needs must...

[the-e-dealer]

Criminals? Knives ? nah never happen.