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>> though I wonder if, when answering, CofE schools weren't really what they were thinking of.


Thing is, if 'British values' are genuinely reflected by things like church fetes and the CofE, then there is probably a case to be made for a non blanket ban, just those that aren't us innit.


Not so very long ago that Catholicism was decidedly unbritish, better dead than red (cassock).


Its not an assertion I necessarily agree with, but it'd be intersting to have a straw poll of the incidence of fundamentalist teaching and undermining of science in the various faith schools and how CofE would fare.

El Pibe Wrote:

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> It was more an atempt to point out inconsistency

> and hypocrisy than to analogise the two situations

> per se.


It's the quote "apparently more sinister because they're located in cities and involve different religions" that I really disagree with. The recent cases in Birmingham involved enforced religious practises.. e.g. fasting, sexual discrimination/segregation, prayer at the start of lessons, lack of sex education. In some cases racism and intolerance were actively encouraged. It's not a simple case of "Chistianity good Islam bad".

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El Pibe Wrote:

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> >> though I wonder if, when answering, CofE

> schools weren't really what they were thinking

> of.

>

> Thing is, if 'British values' are genuinely

> reflected by things like church fetes and the

> CofE, then there is probably a case to be made for

> a non blanket ban, just those that aren't us

> innit.

>

> Not so very long ago that Catholicism was

> decidedly unbritish, better dead than red

> (cassock).

>

> Its not an assertion I necessarily agree with, but

> it'd be intersting to have a straw poll of the

> incidence of fundamentalist teaching and

> undermining of science in the various faith

> schools and how CofE would fare.


Pretty well I'd think - about 50% of the C of E don't even really believe in god themselves as in Jesus was actually the son of god, it's the wishy washiest mainstream wet liberal (in the good sense) religon of choice ...I think your barking up the wrong particualr christian sect tree if you think the CofE is full of creationists.

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no chance of a take off given that its about 20 m wide and the wingspan is 60 odd.

I reckon it could probably manage an emergency landing there if it had dumped all its fuel then i guess the wings would sheer off but the body could do well given a very slow straight approach and a bit of luck.


Might be one or two insurance claims along the way though!!!

I was about to post about how every 5 miles of US Interstate Highway is a mile-long straight bit to allow for aircraft to land in time of war or emergency.


Then I double checked.


It's utter nonsense.


http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/publicroads/00mayjun/onemileinfive.cfm

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