Who to vote for?

[diable rouge]

No, you have to put your cross in the box next to Johnson, there isn't one for Get Brexit Done. Don't worry, we'll take you back to the care home straight after...

[Captain Marvel]

Enjoy

I?m not sure who to vote for.

On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he?s also a bit posh.

And on the other hand..

Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.

Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.

Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.

Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.

Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.

Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.

Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.

Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.

Stood in minute?s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.

Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.

Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.

Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.

Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.

Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber?s co-defendants.

Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.

Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.

Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.

Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.

Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.

Put up ?20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.

Didn?t support IRA ceasefire.

Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his ?friends?.

Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.

Called Hamas ?serious and hard-working?.

Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.

Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.

Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.

Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.

Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.

Hired aide who praised Hamas? ?spirit of resistance?.

Accepted ?20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.

Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.

Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.

Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.

Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.

Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a ?tragedy?.

Wouldn?t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.

Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.

Opposed shoot to kill.

Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.

Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.

Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.

Spoke of ?friendship? with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.

Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.

Called drone strikes against terrorists ?obscene?.

Boasted about ?opposing anti-terror legislation?.

Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are ?strange?.

Accepted ?5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.

Accepted ?2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.

Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a ?very good friend?.

Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.

Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.

Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.

Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.

Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign ? marches attended by Hezbollah.

Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.

Said we should not make ?value judgements? about Britons who fight for ISIS.

Received endorsement from Hamas.

Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.

Chaired Stop the War, who praised ?internationalism and solidarity? of ISIS.

Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.

Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.

Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.

Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.

Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.

Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.

Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.

Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.

Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.

Made the ?case for Iran? at event hosted by Khomeinist group.

Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.

Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.

Said Hamas should ?have tea with the Queen?.

Attended ?Meet the Resistance? event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.

Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian ?mujahideen?.

Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.

Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.

Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.

Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.

Mocked ?anti-terror hysteria? while opposing powers for security services.

Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.

Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.

Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied ?hope and opportunity?.

Said 9/11 was ?manipulated? to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.

Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.

Called Columbian terror group M-19 ?comrades?.

Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.

Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.

Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.

Blamed Tunisia terror attack on ?austerity?.

Voted against banning support for the IRA.

Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.

Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.

Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.

Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.

Voted against banning al-Qaeda.

Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.

Voted against control orders.

Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

So it?s a tricky one really

[uncleglen]

All of the above designed to glean votes. Not tricky- avoid at all costs

[Jules-and-Boo]

so one sided.

Can you not think of anything that the Tories have done that has caused damage?

or perhaps we should just love Boris as he's a scallywag?

Here's some, in case you've forgotten (or just want to mislead people by pretending they haven't done anything bad)

1. Failed to deliver 200,000 starter homes to be sold at 20% discount (non built)

2. Mislead people about universal Credit and were found in breach by Advertising Standards Authority (42 times)

3. Failed in investigate Islmophobia in their own party

4. Cut police numbers by 20,000

5. Removed Bereavement Support for cohabiting couples (including those with children)

6. Universal Credit - if you need that explaining, well then you're on a different planet

7. Increased age for State Pension

8. Benefit restrictions on families with two or more children. With ONE MILLION children below the breadline already...

9. Introduced fees for Employment tribunals (70% drop in cases against unfair dismissal etc)

10. University tuition fees rose from ?3,000 to ?9,000 - and raised again when the cap was lifted

11. Failed to invest in Public Health, with 130,000 avoidable deaths as a result of funding cuts

12. Made rape victims prove their ordeal

13. Scrapped nurses bursaries/ grants of ?6k per year leading to a recruitment crisis

14. Tried to bring back fox hunting

15. Passed the Trade Union Act

16. Cut inheritance tax for the rich

17. Cut school funding, with 80% of schools worse off - closing early, reducing classes and losing staff

18 Introduced the Benefits Cap - and the social cleansing that came with it

19 Implemented the Bedroom Tax

that's enough for now.

[diable rouge]

Captain Marvel Wrote:

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> So it?s a tricky one really

I'm no fan of Corbyn but posts like yours make it easier to put the cross in the Labour box. Thanks...

[Captain Marvel]

I knew that one would get you going

[pk]

Captain Marvel Wrote:

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> I knew that one would get you going

What an idiot you are

[diable rouge]

You do realise that makes you look even worse (than normal)?...

[Captain Marvel]

Hahahaha

[pk]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> All of the above designed to glean votes. Not

> tricky- avoid at all costs

What an idiot you are too

[Captain Marvel]

pk and the devil. It must be a full moon

[diable rouge]

I used to be a werewolf but I'm alright now-ooooooooooowwwwwwwwww!...

[pk]

Captain Marvel Wrote:

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> pk and the devil. It must be a full moon

Why are you so happy to spread BS that you know is BS?

Or are you too stupid to know it?s BS?

[Captain Marvel]

Probably

[Captain Marvel]

celia's a bit late on parade this morning

[Loutwo]

I think both sides are spouting BS. Just like the MP?s. Embarrassing. You all look and sound like school kids.

What a shit show.

Louisa.

[cella]

No was just out canvassing. Thankfully for most decent minded people, you and your views are in the minority. Enjoy your sleepless nights.

[DulwichFox]

Captain Marvel

Judging by replies to your lengthy post...

Corbyn seems to have to have at least 3 supporters in East Dulwich

I can see a Landslide Victory.

Fox

[Rockets]

Security seems to be high on the agenda today and I suggest the Captain Marvel message (which has been pushed widely online) is part of a coordinated programme, timed after the release of the Ashworth leak to further discredit Corbyn for his association with terrorist organisations.

Today also saw an advert from 15 ex-Labour MPs (calling themselves Mainstream and no doubt positioning themselves as the Momentum and Corbynista replacements) urging Labour voters not to vote for Corbyn based on his record on anti-Semitism and extremism and security concerns. This has dragged up the warnings from the ex-head of MI6 who has said that Corbyn would not have been afforded national security clearance in any other position than prime minister (due to his links with terrorist organisations) as MI6 cannot refuse clearance for a prime minister.

Whatever happens tomorrow politics has changed for the worse and it is no longer about policies or what you will do for the country but how much dirt you can dig up on your opponent, undeliverable soundbites to appeal to the masses and how you can get the media and social media to influence the population - and despite what you may hear both sides are a guilty as the other for fully embracing these underhand tactics.

[pk]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Captain Marvel

>

> Judging by replies to your lengthy post...

>

> Corbyn seems to have to have at least 3

> supporters in East Dulwich

> I can see a Landslide Victory.

>

> Fox

So you don?t think labour will win seats locally?

[Seabag]

It?s boiled down to roughly half of the country, disliking the other the other half of the country. It?s caused the greatest division ever seen in the U.K. in modern times.

This election has amplified that feeling, not unified us as a nation.

And where did this all start?

Cameron, Johnson, the Tory party and the rest.

And we may well end up leaving the E.U. Then what, we?re left with each other, and divided views way worse than before the poxy referendum.

Cameron should be exiled to the Isle of Man, or somewhere equally as dull.

[diable rouge]

Rockets Wrote:

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> - and despite what you may hear both

> sides are a guilty as the other for fully

> embracing these underhand tactics.

Well, when it comes to dishonesty in paid-for Facebook ads, there's one clear winner.

From the Beeb...

It looked just at every paid-for Facebook ad from the three main UK-wide parties run over the first four days of December:

For the Conservatives, it said that 88% (5,952) of the party's most widely promoted ads either featured claims which had been flagged by independent fact-checking organisations (including BBC Reality Check) as not correct or not entirely correct. The figure includes instances of the same claims being made across multiple posts. One example was that Labour would spend ?1.2 trillion at a cost of ?2,400 to every household, which was contained within 4,028 ads. Those sums are significantly higher than others' analysis of Labour's plans

For the Lib Dems, it said hundreds of potentially misleading ads had featured identical unlabelled graphs, with no indication of the source data, to claim it was the only party that could beat either Labour, the Conservatives or the SNP "in seats like yours"

For Labour, it said that it could not find any misleading claims in ads run over the period

[DulwichFox]

pk Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > Captain Marvel

> >

> > Judging by replies to your lengthy post...

> >

> > Corbyn seems to have to have at least 3

> > supporters in East Dulwich

> > I can see a Landslide Victory.

> >

> > Fox

>

> So you don?t think labour will win seats locally?

They probably will win seats locally?

There are a lot of Champagne Socialists who own 2 - 3 bedroom terraced houses 'worth' ??? ?900,000

living in East Dulwich who have a Raven on their roof.

The Raven

The raven on the roof closed one eye

Preened himself against the sky

Picked his beak with a crooked claw

And settled down to wait once more

In the house beneath the family sat

Tossing goldfish to the cat

TV dinners on their knee

And forty-nine lights on the Xmas tree

Father?s made a lot of bread

"Someone?s got to make guns" father said

"We know it?s all right and there?s the proof"

"Our house has got a raven on the roof"

"The next door neighbours, they are a joke"

"They cultivate a garden which they smoke"

"And send their kids to the local schools"

"They must be growing up a bunch of fools"

"The next door neighbours haven?t a cent"

"We own our house but they pay rent"

"Property owners should remain aloof"

"Especially when they?ve got a raven on their roof"

When father was fifty he fell ill

Mother puts the crumbs on the window-sill

Like she usually did, but he died in pain

And they found he had a raven in his brain

Copyright: Andy Roberts

[pk]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> pk Wrote:

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> > DulwichFox Wrote:

> >

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> > -----

> > > Captain Marvel

> > >

> > > Judging by replies to your lengthy post...

> > >

> > > Corbyn seems to have to have at least 3

> > > supporters in East Dulwich

> > > I can see a Landslide Victory.

> > >

> > > Fox

> >

> > So you don?t think labour will win seats

> locally?

>

> They probably will win seats locally?

>

> There are a lot of Champagne Socialists who own 2

> - 3 bedroom terraced houses 'worth' ??? ?900,000

> living in East Dulwich who have a Raven on their

> roof.

>

> The Raven

>

>

> The raven on the roof closed one eye

> Preened himself against the sky

> Picked his beak with a crooked claw

> And settled down to wait once more

>

> In the house beneath the family sat

> Tossing goldfish to the cat

> TV dinners on their knee

> And forty-nine lights on the Xmas tree

>

> Father?s made a lot of bread

> "Someone?s got to make guns" father said

> "We know it?s all right and there?s the proof"

> "Our house has got a raven on the roof"

>

> "The next door neighbours, they are a joke"

> "They cultivate a garden which they smoke"

> "And send their kids to the local schools"

> "They must be growing up a bunch of fools"

>

> "The next door neighbours haven?t a cent"

> "We own our house but they pay rent"

> "Property owners should remain aloof"

> "Especially when they?ve got a raven on their

> roof"

>

> When father was fifty he fell ill

> Mother puts the crumbs on the window-sill

> Like she usually did, but he died in pain

> And they found he had a raven in his brain

>

>

> Copyright: Andy Roberts

I?m pretty sure not even you know what you?re on about!

[uncleglen]

pk Wrote:

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> uncleglen Wrote:

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> > All of the above designed to glean votes. Not

> > tricky- avoid at all costs

>

>

> What an idiot you are too

You would say that- just as you probably said in your ignorance of anything going on outside the bubble of champagne socialism in June 2016 that people who voted to Leave are stupid and racist...

The fact that you do not understand the Raven poem is proof that you have no clue.