Applying for settled status

[Alan Medic]

Has anyone done this? If so what was your experience in doing it?

Anyone not bothering to do it? I resent that my wife who has been here over 30 years is obliged to though she hasn't done anything about it yet.

[IlonaM]

I know it is not strictly what you asked, but London barrister Colin Yeo has an excellent website with lots of information and advice about EU citizens & Brexit, including applying for settled status: www.freemovement.org.uk/hubs/eu-free-movement/

[Sephiroth]

As an Irish passport holder but lived here for 33 years I don?t think I?m required to do it

It might still be prudent to do it. And it may yet become a requirement if relations soured between the countries further

But no chance am I going to actually do it. If it comes to them kicking me out I wouldn?t want to be here anyway

[Alan Medic]

I'm going to be clarified...?

[TheCat]

I did it. It took about 15-20mins from start to finish, and was very straight forward.

Everything worked for me, so no complaints at all. But guessing if any stage doesn't work for others it's probably a bit of a pain to get help from the home office.

[JohnL]

Lots of complaints on twitter from people that should get settled status being given pre-settled status.

Not sure why but I'd be very clear on the form and maybe get help filling it in.

[TheCat]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Lots of complaints on twitter from people that

> should get settled status being given pre-settled

> status.

>

> Not sure why but I'd be very clear on the form and

> maybe get help filling it in.

The issue is there's no 'form' so to speak, so it's not like you can apply for the wrong option. Once you identify yourself, then it's goes and looks up your records with HMRC and depending on the amount of history it finds, it awards you settled or pre-settled. I automatically got settled, but I assume if you get awarded pre-settled, and should qualify for settled, that there's some sort of appeal/manual process....but I'm guessing they dont make it easy!

[Sephiroth]

Anyone know what the plan is for people like me who won?t register. We going to be deported?

[Alan Medic]

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> Anyone know what the plan is for people like me

> who won?t register. We going to be deported?

Well I'm in the same boat, and as you know we currently don't have to register. However, I'd be interested to know what the clarification is that's mentioned in the extract of the Immigration Bill I posted above.

[Sephiroth]

Leaving us Paddies aside, I?d be curious to know about eu citizens in general. If they don?t register are they seriously going to be deported?

[Alan Medic]

My Spanish Mrs wouldn't even know about it but for me, as she has no interest in 'current affairs'. A German friend of hers isn't going to bother and she has been here donkey's years also. Hopefully Brexit will collapse as it still can. If it doesn't, Patel strikes me as the type who would love to deport people.

[nxjen]

Only while she?s Home Secretary

[JohnL]

'In an interview with German newspaper Die Welt, (Brandon) Lewis said EU citizens living in the UK risk being deported if they fail to apply for the scheme by the end of 2020. "If EU citizens have not registered by then without an adequate justification, the immigration rules will apply," he said. '

followed closely by

'Lewis said on Twitter that his words had been taken "somewhat taken out of context," while a Home Office spokesperson said EU citizens who miss the 2020 deadline will be given "further opportunity" to apply.'

[Alan Medic]

TheCat Wrote:

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> I did it. It took about 15-20mins from start to

> finish, and was very straight forward.

>

> Everything worked for me, so no complaints at all.

> But guessing if any stage doesn't work for others

> it's probably a bit of a pain to get help from the

> home office.

Cat, did you do this via a smartphone? Seems necessary, to be able to read a biometric passport, otherwise documents have to be posted. Can you confirm this?

[TheCat]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> TheCat Wrote:

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> > I did it. It took about 15-20mins from start to

> > finish, and was very straight forward.

> >

> > Everything worked for me, so no complaints at

> all.

> > But guessing if any stage doesn't work for

> others

> > it's probably a bit of a pain to get help from

> the

> > home office.

>

> Cat, did you do this via a smartphone? Seems

> necessary, to be able to read a biometric

> passport, otherwise documents have to be posted.

> Can you confirm this?

Yes, I did it using my android phone. You do need one.

[diable rouge]

City Hall is open this Friday (31st Jan) for anyone needing help/advice...

[Alan Medic]

I saw that today RD. Thanks for posting it though.

My wife applied today but they require additional information. This amounts to a period from 2013-2016 and this year. In all a period much longer than 5 years which I understood to be the requirement.

She has lived here over 30 years but when it comes to unexpectedly having to prove it, it's not necessarily easy.

[diable rouge]

A good time to remind everyone what the Vote Leave campaign promised back in 2016, namely that EU citizens would be automatically granted indefinite leave to remain. This promise was signed by both Johnson and Patel.

Having to apply for ''settled status'' isn't automatic, and many who have already applied have only been given ''pre-settled status'', meaning they have to re-apply when they can prove five years of residence in the UK...

[IlonaM]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> She has lived here over 30 years but when it comes

> to unexpectedly having to prove it, it's not

> necessarily easy.

THink of sources like GP/dental surgeries/hospital (maternity/op/treatment etc.)/colleges/schools/universities/employers etc. for a certificate/letter/document confirming registration with surgery etc. x number of years ago. Have a look on the Free Movement webite (see my post above) for other ideas. Immigration lawyers have to be quite creative in the kinds of records that they use to demonstrate a historical timeline.

[Renata Hamvas]

This may be useful to those reading the thread and also to pass on to friends and family.

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/births-deaths-marriage-and-citizenship/eu-settlement-scheme?article&article&&article

Renata

[IlonaM]

Source: https://www.freemovement.org.uk/you-can-now-get-an-eu-settlement-scheme-application-form-by-email/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=you-can-now-get-an-eu-settlement-scheme-application-form-by-email&utm_source=Free+Movement&utm_campaign=a6f69c06af-EU+rights+updates&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_792133aa40-a6f69c06af-105092221&mc_cid=a6f69c06af&mc_eid=bcf851a85d

'You can now get an EU Settlement Scheme application form by email

Most people applying to the EU Settlement Scheme do so online. A minority of people cannot, generally those who are not EU citizens but who nevertheless qualify for the EU Settlement Scheme under a variety of scenic routes (known to lawyers as Zambrano, Chen, Ibrahim, Surinder Singh and Lounes). Those people have to call the Settlement Scheme helpline and ask for a paper application form to be posted out, filled in and returned. It?s much more of a faff.

With 20 days to go before the Settlement Scheme deadline, the Home Office now says that these application forms can be ordered and returned by email instead of by post. This doesn?t seem to be mentioned on its website yet, but officials have been letting lawyers and charities know in correspondence. Marianne Lagrue from Coram Children?s Legal Centre has the following message direct from the EUSS Grants Team:

With effect from Wednesday 9th June 2021 it is now possible to request paper application forms from the SRC [settlement Resolution Centre] to be sent via email, this will hopefully speed up the process.

In addition to this, if required, it is also possible to submit a paper form via email, although this needs to be specifically requested when requesting the paper application.

Any bulk requests (no more than 10 per sheet) should be sent using the attached spreadsheet [here] with all required columns completed to [email protected].

Presumably non-bulk requests for an emailed application form can also go to [email protected]; we?ll try to confirm that.'

[IlonaM]

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/eu-settlement-scheme-coronavirus-policy-relaxed/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=eu-settlement-scheme-coronavirus-policy-relaxed&utm_source=Free+Movement&utm_campaign=7559c33460-EU+rights+updates&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_792133aa40-7559c33460-105092221&mc_cid=7559c33460&mc_eid=bcf851a85d

'On 10 June 2021 the Home Office reissued its guidance on coronavirus and the EU Settlement Scheme. Originally published in December 2020, it was withdrawn last month following a legal challenge. The new version is considerably more generous than the old.' see link for more details

[IlonaM]

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/you-can-now-get-an-eu-settlement-scheme-application-form-by-email/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=you-can-now-get-an-eu-settlement-scheme-application-form-by-email&utm_source=Free+Movement&utm_campaign=c05aeef7a8-EU+rights+updates&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_792133aa40-c05aeef7a8-105092221&mc_cid=c05aeef7a8&mc_eid=bcf851a85d

You can now get an EU Settlement Scheme application form online

Most people applying to the EU Settlement Scheme do so online. A minority cannot, including adults without a valid passport and children with no ID at all.

Those people have had to call the Settlement Scheme helpline and ask for a paper application form to be posted out to them. With days to go before the main application deadline, some readers have told us that they are unable to get through.

Possibly as a result, the Home Office has now put that application form on its website. The form can be downloaded and submitted by email or post, but there are important restrictions. It is only for:

people who have been in touch with the helpline already and been told they are allowed to use the form, or

people who, as above, have no valid passport/ID card and need to rely on alternative evidence of their identity

Our friends at Seraphus also advise that this form cannot be used by non-EU citizens who qualify for the EU Settlement Scheme under a variety of scenic routes (known to lawyers as Zambrano, Chen, Ibrahim, Surinder Singh and Lounes) and also have to apply on paper. Such applicants still need to request a different type of paper form from the helpline.

Approved NGOs and local councils can request these specialised application forms by emailing the EUSS Grants Team rather than having to phone up.

This article was originally published on 10 June and has been updated several times in light of changing information about the process for obtaining a paper form.

[IlonaM]

Three links regarding recent case re: Zambrano carers & EU Settlement scheme

'By way of very brief (and slightly simplistic) explanation, Zambrano carers are non-EU citizens who are primary carers of British citizens. They derive a right to reside in the UK on the basis that, if they were to leave the UK, the British citizen would be compelled to leave the EU. Importantly, as Zambrano rights derive from EU law, they are only available to those who became primary carers of British citizens before 31 December 2020.'

- https://www.freemovement.org.uk/high-court-finds-the-eu-settlement-scheme-rules-for-zambrano-carers-unlawful/

- https://www.freemovement.org.uk/latest-on-zambrano-carers-and-the-eu-settlement-scheme/

- https://www.freemovement.org.uk/eu-settlement-scheme-zambrano-carers/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=eu-settlement-scheme-zambrano-carers&utm_source=Free+Movement&utm_campaign=c2b7192896-EU+rights+updates&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_792133aa40-c2b7192896-105092221&mc_cid=c2b7192896&mc_eid=bcf851a85d

[IlonaM]

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/podcast-eu-settlement-scheme-deadline/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=podcast-eu-settlement-scheme-deadline&utm_source=Free+Movement&utm_campaign=e63809b59b-EU+rights+updates&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_792133aa40-e63809b59b-105092221&mc_cid=e63809b59b&mc_eid=bcf851a85d

'Brexit begins on 1 July. From that date, ?hostile environment? checks apply to EU citizens in earnest. It will no longer be possible to satisfy an immigration status check ? for benefits, employment or a tenancy ? by flashing an EU passport. Instead, as Home Office guidance puts it, EU nationals ?will be required to provide evidence of lawful immigration status in the UK, in the same way as other foreign nationals?.

For those living in the UK before the end of 2020, evidence of lawful immigration status is likely to mean pre-settled or status granted under the EU Settlement Scheme. Applications to that scheme are, for the most part, also required before 1 July; people who haven?t applied by then will invariably run into the hostile environment.

What happens to those people is the subject of this podcast. Chris Benn from Seraphus, as ever our indispensable guide to all things Settlement Scheme, has the latest word on what EU residents can expect if not among the 5 million people who have already secured their pre-settled or settled status.

If you prefer it in writing: we?ve previously reviewed the guidance on making late applications, and will put out a briefing on the approach to enforcement, drawing on Chris?s intel, next week.'

See also from The Law Society regarding vulnerable EU citizens & EUSS: https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/contact-or-visit-us/press-office/press-releases/legal-crevasse-awaits-the-most-vulnerable-eu-citizens-in-uk?utm_source=professional_update&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PU-06%2f25%2f2021&sc_camp=5C0FE0D28B474F6BA2EE374CB3EE601B