Thngs that are vastly over rated

[SeanMacGabhann]

Haven't seen the film but have heard many fors and againsts

I do know that race as an issue over there is substantially different to the UK. Even if you see a US comic touring the UK a lot of material is about race and it leaves UK audiences non-plussed because we seem to just get on with it and mingle much more than the US

I know some parts of the UK have enclaves but on the whole we are very good at the whole multi-cultural thing

[mockney piers]

With you on that BM.

[barrymarshall]

It was the a film liked by people who really don't know how racism works, especially in a cosmopolitan city like LA. The only people who liked this film are the ones who don't encounter racism. The film was really in-you-face with earnest "issues" but it all boils down to a bunch of stereotypes trapped in a duff, sub-Magnolia (and that was another over-rated film) story-telling structure.

The film is self-congratulatory. It's the kind of "quality" product that Hollywood serves up a couple of times per year that the broadsheets go crazy over but are actually generally rubbish.

[mockney piers]

"but it all boils down to a bunch of stereotypes trapped in a duff, sub-Magnolia (and that was another over-rated film) story-telling structure"

Again with you, you missed paper-thin between the 'of' and the 'stereotypes'

[Asset]

I liked it, not for any deep, socio-political issue raising, I just thought it was a good film. Is that not okay?

[mockney piers]

Of course it's ok, each to their own asset. I just thought it was a watchable enough but mediocre film, so never really understood the hype and plaudits.

Great performance by Dillon, I've said on another thread that his was the only complex character in the film and he rose to the challenge.

[spadetownboy]

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[Keef]

I watched Crash having heard all the reviews, and expecting something really special. I quite enjoyed it, but didn't think it was special.

[Cassius]

Live8 concert - one of the most boring afternoon/evenings ever - I was there and I hated it!

[SeanMacGabhann]

I don't think anyone rates it Cassius, much less over-rates it

[Cassius]

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Actually some of the people who were there were very excited about it! Most of them seem to have never been to a concert before! If it was possible I would have said that the people there were handpicked to be easily pleased - and we were given our tickets by a friend of a friend from North Devon who couldn't afford to come up for it, and had she would have been overwhelmed by the occasion.

[atila the gooner]

Reunion concerts

[Gerrard]

Artic Monkeys. I hate the recent collection of jingle-jangle guitar bands... Awful.

[Bellenden Belle]

Radiohead - any period - I just don't understand what makes them so special

Mighty Boosch, Fast Show, Little Britain....erm, are they overated or do I simply have no sense of humour!

Hope and Greenwood-ooooh, I'm treading dangerous territory here. Why does sugar and fat have to be so twee? (and expensive)

David Mamet - his plays leave me cold.

But I rather like Russell Brand and as for the film Magnolia - I loved it.

[Keef]

Couln't agree more about Radiohead!

[SeanMacGabhann]

agree about Radiohead too

but the 3 comedy series you mention are quite, quite different from each other - one of them should appeal at least

is fat and sugar expensive? I know good CHOCOLATE is expensive but that is a different matter. And yeah it's kind of twee but even tho' many other shops have got in on the act it was a bit of a trailblazer. And kids seem to love it - if I was a kid I'd love it. Actually I love it anyway... is there somewhere else I can go to get chocolate chilis?

And I agree about the Arctic Monkeys too

[tinagwee]

primal scream are very overrated

[SteveT]

Having to purchase a TV licence to support BBC 1 & 2 and having no choice in it. ?135 for those 2 channels is a poor investment compared to ?270 with Sky and 60 channels.

[SeanMacGabhann]

uh oh - rant mode on - apologies in advance Steve

Come on Steve you know full well the argument isn't that - you pay ?135 for just 2 channels do you? You don't get the best web news service in the world, you don't get advert free TV, you don't get a world service which, if nothing else provided a lifeline to many a Brtish prisoner held abroad, you don't get superior radio to anything else available

So you don't use any of them - you prefer the channels that Sky offer do you. Entirely up to you. Just be glad your money contributes to what makes Britain special. The day it goes is a day future generations will look back on with sadness

All for feckin football and endless home loan adverts on 60 channels

[Brendan]

Yeah but you don't have a choice to tell them to stuff it if you don't want it.

[SeanMacGabhann]

[on a slightly more reasonable tip]

I would argue that one of the good things about it is that you or I don't have the choice - it's not about consumer freedom. It's about a whole nation doing something together and reaping the benefit

Sometimes we need to be slapped and told "just do it". If we had a choice, then it wouldn't even exist. Enough people would exercise their choice and then it would be gone forever and for everyone...

Slightly hippyish I know..

[SteveT]

I would like the option to pay for the BBC as with any other provider supermarket car maker. I dont have the 'feckin football channels Sean, far too rich for my blood. Like Brendan says you cannot tell them to stuff it' if you want Sky, NTL, Telewest it's a legal prerequisite to buy the beeb.

Something else that is vastly overated is staying on topic!

[Keef]

Just don't pay it, their stories about detector vans and knocks on your door are basically bo!locks!

[SeanMacGabhann]

I don't think we're ever going to agree on it Steve - not when one of the things i like is that it isn't just another provider - so we'll draw a veil over this one (lord knows I have seen th elicense fee argument go on for years on other forums)

As for detector vans - I have been visited 4 times for a license, and when the visit and you don't have a license (I was young!) they don't mess about

[Keef]

I've had loads of letters telling me I was due a visit, and no one has ever come round.

I've done the license thing a couple of times in my life whilst living with paranoid types, but can't be arsed these days.