RosieH Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The butter ads financed PIL's new album and last> year's tour. He doesn't have a record contract.> Without the money from the ads none of that would> have been possible.Personally I couldn't give two hoots: I rather like those butter ads. But selling out is still selling out, innit. It's not like he gave the money to charity, it was for himself. Or perhaps Jah, you see the new PIL album as somehow for the public good..? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Do people still live with the falsehood that JL is/was an anarchist ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 RosieH Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Jah Lush Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > The butter ads financed PIL's new album and> last> > year's tour. He doesn't have a record contract.> > Without the money from the ads none of that> would> > have been possible.> > Personally I couldn't give two hoots: I rather> like those butter ads. But selling out is still> selling out, innit. It's not like he gave the> money to charity, it was for himself. Or perhaps> Jah, you see the new PIL album as somehow for the> public good..?Errr.... no. Was just saying. I'd rather listen to him than say Robbie Williams who got a massive ?80 million recording contract and was so successful with it he had to rejoin Take That who are an even bigger pile of poo than he is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Marmora Man Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?2> 0,file=52038> > Real Republicans must be weary of the cynicism of> Woodrot and his small following. Republicanism as> a political theory posits that a Monarchy is not> necessary because the wisdom and common sense of> the citizens of any country can make a better stab> at governing their country. Woodrot appear to turn> that idea upside down - in his view it is the> foolishness, naivety and sheeplike devotion to an> outdated concept of British citizens (subjects?)> that maintains the Monarchy. So rather than> trusting the British people, Woodrot despises,> insults and diminishes them. > > His stance also ignores the evolution of the> British Constitution - where the Monarchy has> given up true power and authority to the> democratically elected government in return for a> its continuance as a symbol of continuity and> history.decay and rot are part of the most basic biologial cycle for reproduction. The UK is moribund, the cycle has not moved for hundreds of years. as anyone with an understanding of ecology will agree, this is a dangerous state of affairs.an idiot family line that have been responsible for tens, maybe hundfeds millions of deaths over the centuries remain in power. God Bless them.You bring forth the constitution issue - we have no constitution. We do however have a de fatco constitution in the spiderweb of laws that have evolved. Like the dogmatic despotism of the Catholic church rules, the opaque nature of such a labyrinth construct ensures the public will rarely accomodate wehere exactly they stand. It also ensures that the filthy regime of favour and wealth can continue unhindered.The rot needs to be kickstarted again. get the cycle restarted and chop down the dead wood to make space for our descendents - we cannot do anything about our horrific, despotic, murderous, racist, rotten, corrupt, rapacious past, we can try to do something for the future. You support this jingoism, you saction the deaths of millions and laugh at their suffering. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 John Lydon as a 'struggling artits' on this thread is making me chortle muchly..he's mainly a millionaire property owner who lives in LA (as he has done since the late 70s), I suspect that he pays no british tax nor is a user of the NHS. He just flies in to collect easy money for adverts and celebrity shows and occasional Sex Pistol 'shows'...filthy lucre indeed, and good luck to the fella Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> John Lydon as a 'struggling artits' on this thread> is making me chortle muchly..> > he's mainly a millionaire property owner who lives> in LA (as he has done since the late 70s), I> suspect that he pays no british tax nor is a user> of the NHS. He just flies in to collect easy money> for adverts and celebrity shows and occasional Sex> Pistol 'shows'...filthy lucre indeed, and good> luck to the fellasorry to pis on your chips, but the property developer thing is a falsehood - IIRC, it came out as he was bullshitting before the JUngle Celebrity thing. His Wife Nora I believe was independently wealthy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 An example of Royal continuityPrince goes off to foreign climes to shoot at people who are not white http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/02/28/harry8.jpgNothing changes, despite the lick of paint that these scum have received to jazz up their PR over the past few years. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 woodrot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> ???? Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > John Lydon as a 'struggling artits' on this> thread> > is making me chortle muchly..> > > > he's mainly a millionaire property owner who> lives> > in LA (as he has done since the late 70s), I> > suspect that he pays no british tax nor is a> user> > of the NHS. He just flies in to collect easy> money> > for adverts and celebrity shows and occasional> Sex> > Pistol 'shows'...filthy lucre indeed, and good> > luck to the fella> > > sorry to pis on your chips, but the property> developer thing is a falsehood - IIRC, it came out> as he was bullshitting before the JUngle Celebrity> thing. His Wife Nora I believe was independently> wealthy...so he's a struggling artist then? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 probabaly not, PIL are a delight thoughAnywayend of thread, as the jube is overthanks for the continuted participation everyone. Some really gave 110 % and covered every blade of grass.Same place in 10 years for a reprise yes ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie1997 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 woodrot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> decay and rot are part of the most basic biologial> cycle for reproduction. The UK is moribund, the> cycle has not moved for hundreds of years. as> anyone with an understanding of ecology will> agree, this is a dangerous state of affairs.an> idiot family line that have been responsible for> tens, maybe hundfeds millions of deaths over the> centuries remain in power. God Bless them.> > You bring forth the constitution issue - we have> no constitution. We do however have a de fatco> constitution in the spiderweb of laws that have> evolved. Like the dogmatic despotism of the> Catholic church rules, the opaque nature of such a> labyrinth construct ensures the public will rarely> accomodate wehere exactly they stand. It also> ensures that the filthy regime of favour and> wealth can continue unhindered.> > > The rot needs to be kickstarted again. get the> cycle restarted and chop down the dead wood to> make space for our descendents - we cannot do> anything about our horrific, despotic, murderous,> racist, rotten, corrupt, rapacious past, we can> try to do something for the future. You support> this jingoism, you saction the deaths of millions> and laugh at their suffering.Cool story bro. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 grrrrrrr Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 'de fatco'That needs a punchline Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieH Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 woodrot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Do people still live with the falsehood that JL> is/was an anarchist ?Wait, what? People thought Jah Lush was an anarchist?Shurely some mishtake... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Indeed! Bloody cheek. I'm a non-aligned radical maaaaan! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computedshorty Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Should I be a Royalist?I have enjoyed the Celebrations of the Queen?s Jubilee, but now unable to take part.I was born 1931 during the reign of King George V, who reigned from 1910 to 1936 for 25 years.The next in line was to be King Edward VIII, who chose to Abdicate in 1936 after just 325 days.King George VI was the second son of King George V, to be Crowned King from 1936 to 1952 for 15 years.Elizabeth daughter of King George VI was crowned Queen Elizabeth II in 1952 and still reigns for sixty years.Three Kings and a Queen are the only rulers that I have known, having no other at the head of the country it is impossible to judge if they were or are the best for the country.Having seen and heard of the Head of other counties where a Fuehrer, Dictator, President, Tsars, are the Rulers, I am inclined to think that I was lucky to be born here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Do people still live with the Falsehood that we need a Monarch? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santerme Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 woodrot Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> An example of Royal continuity> > Prince goes off to foreign climes to shoot at> people who are not white > > http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/p> ictures/2008/02/28/harry8.jpg> > Nothing changes, despite the lick of paint that> these scum have received to jazz up their PR over> the past few years.Good drills Harry. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I'm neither a royalist or a republican.Found this article in the New Statesman rather interesting. Some of the letters afterwards are pretty good too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Why bring out the WWII war planes? What has that got to go with anything?Is it any better than North Korea parading their tanks and rocket launchers through the streets of Pyongyang? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santerme Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Why bring out the WWII war planes? What has that> got to go with anything?> > Is it any better than North Korea parading their> tanks and rocket launchers through the streets of> Pyongyang?Seriously? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 the-e-dealer Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Do people still live with the Falsehood that we need a Monarch?You don't *need* one, but I'm struggling to come up with a better alternative for a post that has pretty much zero real political power, but generates an enormous amount of publicity for the UK and just proved it's overwhelming popularity over the last four days.But I'm open to suggestions. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Loz Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> the-e-dealer Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Do people still live with the Falsehood that we> need a Monarch?> > You don't *need* one, but I'm struggling to come> up with a better alternative for a post that has> pretty much zero real political power, but> generates an enormous amount of publicity for the> UK and just proved it's overwhelming popularity> over the last four days.> > But I'm open to suggestions.Jordan's tits?.. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 red devil Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- > > But I'm open to suggestions.> > Jordan's tits?..But they're fake at least the Queen's are for real. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Loz Wrote:> > > But I'm open to suggestions.> > Jordan's tits?..I think you missed the 'overwhelming popularity' bit. Pippa Middleton's arse I may have conceded, but that's really just another branch of the current royal family, isn't it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Santerme Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Jeremy Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Why bring out the WWII war planes? What has> that> > got to go with anything?> > > > Is it any better than North Korea parading> their> > tanks and rocket launchers through the streets> of> > Pyongyang?> > Seriously?Yeah. Semi-serious anyway. What is the point of a display of our former military prowess? What has that got to do with the Queen's Jubilee? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23748-jubilee-weekend/page/4/#findComment-550218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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