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fatwhite Wrote:

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> Why are big food outlets not enforcing the 5p

> carry bag fee let alone the plastic packaging?


I had an email from Tesco today saying they would no longer have an option for stuff to be delivered to the door in plastic bags.

I think all attempts to think about reusing and recycling are admirable and I support all those who do so. I also think it would be equally as effective - probably much more so - to not consume as much in the first place. Ditching plastic bags or containers, even on a massive scale, won't do enough to stop and then reverse climate change, which is what this is all about. Turning down the heating, driving less (or at least more skilfully), just buying and consuming much less is easier and more effective.

I actually did this once - bought a salad on the lane which was sold in a plastic box. Washed it, went back the following day and asked for a refill which the vendor happily did. I have to say I did feel awkward and so didn't do it again ;-)


What would be EVEN better if the vendors actually offered a discount when you bring in your once-used tub. Just an idea but I'm sure it would motivate people... and create loyalty as you'd need to go back to that same restaurant for your refill etc.


Can we get the local restaurants on board ??


On a similar topic, I love M&S food but cannot abide the amount of plastic packaging. They really need to do something positive for the environment and re-think their packaging... they seem to be the worst supermarket for waste IMO...

ali2007 Wrote:

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> On a similar topic, I love M&S food but cannot

> abide the amount of plastic packaging. They really

> need to do something positive for the environment

> and re-think their packaging... they seem to be

> the worst supermarket for waste IMO...



I completely agree. Especially the fruit.


Citrus is in those plastic net bags. Why can't they use cotton net bags?


And I bought some apricots in there yesterday which had three separate bits of packaging.


I will write to them about it when I get a moment. It really annoys me, GRRRR :(

Sue Wrote:

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> ali2007 Wrote:

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> > On a similar topic, I love M&S food but cannot

> > abide the amount of plastic packaging. They

> really

> > need to do something positive for the

> environment

> > and re-think their packaging... they seem to be

> > the worst supermarket for waste IMO...

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> I completely agree. Especially the fruit.

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> Citrus is in those plastic net bags.

Why can't they use cotton net bags?

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> And I bought some apricots in there yesterday

> which had three separate bits of packaging.

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> I will write to them about it when I get a moment.

> It really annoys me, GRRRR :(


Sue are you not aware of the Cotton Trade ??


Cotton uses immense quantities of water

It takes 10,000 liters of water to produce 1 kilo of cotton, meaning it takes about 2,700 liters to make 1 cotton t-shirt. When you buy clothing you therefore ?use? water from wherever the cotton was produced.


Devastating consequences

Have you heard about the Aral Sea? Once the 4th largest lake in the world, but now virtually gone - mainly because of cotton cultivation. It has been called one of the planet's worst environmental disasters by the UN. You can see for yourself in the video below.


Have a read. It gets worse.


Deadly dust

Instead of the lake, 43 million tons of pesticide-laden dust is blown into the air every year. The Aral Sea region suffers from the highest rates of throat cancer in the world - representing 80 percent of the cases of cancer.


http://www.theworldcounts.com/counters/cotton_environmental_impacts/environmental_issues_with_cotton


Foxy

I get what you're saying Foxy, and the cotton trade is appalling, but it's not a reason not to challenge M&S on excess packaging ? let's not get too bogged down in this.


Retailers are slowly responding to consumer demand on reducing packaging, let's keep the pressure on and keep on asking questions including what alternatives are best ? maybe not cotton, maybe there's an invention waiting to happen turning old tshirts into string bags :)

Well ? What is the solution. ?


Plastic No.


Cotton No.


Paper ? Millions of trees chopped down ? No


So.. Let's not eat Red Meat.


Let's not drive Cars.


Les's not Fly in aircraft and never travel anywhere


Do not take baths. (Waste Water)


Do not have Bar-b-ques


Cut down on alcohol.


Do not smoke.


We are saving the planet for future generations who also will never be able to do anything.

The same problems will Always be there.


Anything else needs banning or taxing


Fox


Sorry, Forgot about Sugar.

We get a regular delivery from Riverford who have swapped plastic nets for nets made of beech wood. They have a pretty measured view - some packaging is always going to be needed and some of that will be plastic, but where other options exist they use them. It?s about reducing overall consumption not banning plastic entirely.


https://wickedleeks.riverford.co.uk/opinion/news-farm-plastic/wooden-nets-and-sustainable-packaging

We used to get our eggs from a local butcher until he closed down and always returned the polystyrene egg boxes to him which he forwarded to the producer. Our current butcher will not take back egg boxes so we give to a friend who has chickens and sometimes has an excess of eggs to give away.
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I totally agree with you as I have recently worked on a project about the safety of the environment and such an initiative is an amazing way to improve our society. I have found a lot of interesting information on this website where the professionals have gathered valuable samples about the environment.

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