Alec John Moore Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 HiAbout a year ago I spent 5 days spending ?1 a day on food. This was part of the Live Below the Line campaign to raise awareness of extreme poverty and the lives of the poorest people in the world. By taking the challenge I was attempting to raise my own consciousness of the issue and "bring to life the direct experiences of the 1.4 billion people currently living in extreme poverty" while also raising awareness more widely of the issue of food insecurity.It was an interesting challenge and I think I became just slightly more obsessive about food during those five days. This year I am taking the challenge again and hoping to raise some funds for my charity - Salvation Army International Development - to support subsistence farmers in places like Malawi increase production through training in sustainable agriculture techniques and the use of drought resistant crops, for instance.If you'd like to support me then follow this link: https://www.livebelowtheline.com/me/alecleggatFollow this thread if you'd like to know how I get on.One of the things I came across last year when looking at the issue is this set of photos showing what families in countries as diverse as Germany and Chad eat in a week. A fascinating comparison of conspicuous consumption on one hand and enforced frugality on the other.http://www.foodmatters.tv/articles-1/what-the-world-eats-shocking-photosBest wishesAlec Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 I'm starting my Live Below the Line challenge tomorrow. Thanks, Susan from my book group for being my first donor:https://www.livebelowtheline.com/me/alecleggatHere's my shopping list for my larder for the next 5 days:Large pot basic yogurt 55pBasic own brand pasta 30pBroth mix (barley, lentils, split peas) 651 ltr UHT milk 49p2 tins chopped tomatoes 62p330gm porridge oats 35pveg stock cubes 10p250gm wholemeal flour 22p160ml vegetable oil 25p5 fresh eggs from our own chickens 75p (based on the daily cost of their feed)1 tin tuna flakes 49p5 small onions 23pCan't wait.Alec Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Hello AlecHow did you manage to make all of the items add up to exactly ?5.00? I presume you don't have to take into account the cost of cooking food. Given your list of items, what will you use the milk for? Scrambled egg?It would be very interesting to read about what your menu is each day. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Probably using the milk to make the porridge? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intexasatthe moment Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 no.no.no.make porridge with water ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I would like to know menu as well. You don't need milk to make porridge or an egg. I guess it would be better to have a hardboiled egg each day as it would seem more solid and therefore more filling. Could make some pastry with oil and milk and make onion savouries. Do you get tea bags? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 If you get desperate can you kill one of your own chickens? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 intexasatthe moment Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> no.no.no.> make porridge with water !Yes! And then add a splash of milk afterward if necessary. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Morrisons has large loaves of bread for less than 50 pence. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 I think I'd have gone down that route along with cheap baked beans. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Yes. If you are lucky you can find 4 tin packs of baked beans for a pound. Iceland used to do them but now they are 3 for a pound. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 HiThanks for your responses. I've just had breakfast of porridge made with some of the UHT milk, topped with a few dollops of yogurt. It was surprisingly good. I should have made the porridge with water, intexas, so that I could keep some milk for the pancakes I will make later. Perhaps I'll use both water and milk for the porridge depending on how I can eke it out. I intend to use the eggs for the pancakes. To keep it simple, not much choice really, I'm preparing to make a broth mix stew (today's ration is soaking in a bowl of water at the moment) with the pasta and tinned toms too. I'll make as much as my ration allows and then divide it in two and have some for lunch and some for dinner. I like the idea of using the onions with the pastry. I could soften them in some oil and them sprinkle them on the pancakes before I flip them. I'm also thinking I could add a little yogurt to the broth/stew. I did try Sainsbury's basics, Fairtrade, tea bags last year when I did this but they were not even worth the 26p or whatever they cost. Today I took some mint from the garden for a refreshing mug of mint tea. You're supposed to work out how much it cost to produce what you take from the garden but I've had the mint plants for a couple of years and I don't know how to work out the depreciation on plants. I have to admit to having bent the Live Below the Line rules a bit by taking my allocations for flour, oil, onions and porridge oats from bigger packs. I think that is necessary though to be able to use basic ingredients.The main thing I'm sure I'll find is that it is very tedious and time consuming to be thinking about food and cooking it in this way. The constraints of the challenge mean that you can't do what a lot of us can and just get what you want pretty much when you want it. I hope I'll be able to have a fairly healthy diet with a fair amount of enjoyment in the consumption of my meals but it isn't what I would choose.I'll let you know how I get on. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 P.S. you can follow me on twitter @AlecLeggat if you are into that kind of thing.Alec Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Can you not cook a large pot of dried beans and then have them over several days with onions and tomatoes, cold or hot? I would chop the onions and use them raw on top of hot beans along with yogurt. Can you use dried chilli flakes? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Hi GidgetThat's more or less what I'm doing only on a day by day basis. Lunch was actually quite nice today. The pancakes turned out quite fluffy I suppose because there was more egg to flour and milk than is usual. I need to soak/cook the dried peas a bit longer.Alec Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 So what is your breakfast and dinner then? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Breakfast is porridge with yogurt and dinner is the same as lunch but perhaps with some tinned tuna added as a treat. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 Are you at home during the 5 days Alec or do you have to take your lunch with you to work? I also wonder is it a case of not having enough choice for the money you can spend or does hunger kick in? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 I'll be back in the office on Tuesday for the rest of the week. Choice is clearly limited within what you can buy for your ?5 and you have to make it last. So, a fifth of the porridge oats allowance each day for breakfast and so on for the broth mix and pasta. I don't have much salt in my food anyway so I may well have a few of the cheap stock cubes left over. They are mostly salt. I don't know what your eating habits are but I tend to graze (snack between meals) as well as my 3 meals a day. You can't do that on this regime. I reckon I'll get hungry between meals but I'll be using mint from the garden to make tea which should stave off the hunger pangs a bit. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twirly Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Really interesting, and I am full of admiration for you for doing this - not sure I could do it myself. Will be following your progress on Twitter :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Thanks, Twirly. I'm just about to make my breakfast of porridge with UHT milk and yogurt. Not much different from what I usually have except for the UHT milk. If you click on #BelowtheLine on Twitter you'll see some fascinating images of how people have decided to use their limited funds. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-542988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 My Live Below the Line pancake recipe: 1 egg, 150ml UHT milk or 50/50 UHT milk and water, 60gms wholemeal flour. They are really nice. That amount of batter doesn't make enough. Can I have some more, please? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-543034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 How many did it make? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-543037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec John Moore Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Two like the one in the photo (about 9 inches) and one titchy one. I forgot to say that I added some finely chopped onion, lightly saut?ed. You need to be careful using wholemeal flour in pancake batter since the bran sinks to the bottom and the last pancake can be high in fibre. I could sift the flour and add the bran to the broth mix/pasta gloop. This thread is being quite helpful from a Live Below the Line culinary point of view. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-543085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gidget Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Maybe you could add a beany filling to a pancake. I have made some lovely pancakes with eggs, cottage cheese and oats, no flour. I know you don't have any cottage cheese in your shopping list but Lidl has a tasty version for under 50p a carton. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23260-live-below-the-line/#findComment-543095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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