Irish Festival 2012 ????

[tiger ranks]

Not sure if anybody can answer the question if there will be a irish festival this year 2012

[tiger ranks]

that was meant to say Re: IRISH FESTIVAL 2012 ????

[the-e-dealer]

Come on the

Itish.

[ianr]

Not one funded by Southwark, according to the Report New Events Programme 2011-2013 [PDF 115 KB] downloadable from http://moderngov.southwarksites.com/ieDecisionDetails.aspx?ID=2406

[minder]

Sure there was something on here a while ago (months) about this.

Southwark Council won't fund the Irish Festival on Peckham Rye anymore.

[BrandNewGuy]

Well, that's probably because it cost an eye-watering ?52K - God knows what for... on that basis, I'm glad it's not being funded any more.

[ianr]

> Sure there was something on here a while ago (months) about this.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,644421,873342,page=5

[monica]

I really enjoyed the Irish festival. Must be the Irish coming out in me. :)-D

I heard they were integrating it with a festival at Burgess park, but I may be wrong. Ask James Barber, he may know.

[the-e-dealer]

Ask James he likes cancelling things

[tallulah71]

Isn't Burgess Park the South American one? Lots of Irish peeps travel to South America...a great meeting of minds. Great music, fancy dancing, questionable cuisine. Could be a winner!

[minder]

Yeah, looks like Southwark Council are going to concentrate all their funding on Burgess Park now, after neglecting it for years and cancelling a measly ?52K from Peckham Rye.

Still, Southwark Council have kept our council tax the same, but are going to increase everything else from library charges to car park charges next week.

Read in the South London Press this week that Rye Lane and the Peckhamplex Cinema are really struggling because there's nowhere to park. This isn't helped by the fact that Southwark are increasing the Cerise Rd car park charge from 80p to ?1 an hour as from next week.

When the cinema has gone, it's gone!

[Chick]

Well there is always the Ritzy

[Sue]

minder Wrote:

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> When the cinema has gone, it's gone!

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But going to that cinema is a really really depressing experience :-S

Relatively cheap, but I'd rather pay more and go to the Ritzy.

[BrandNewGuy]

minder Wrote:

> a measly ?52K from Peckham Rye.

Yeah, it's easy to call ?52K of someone else's money 'measly'. I still think this is an extraordinary figure for what the event actually was...

[minder]

Sue - I can't see how going to Peckham Cinema is a really depressing experience, especially if your watching a good film!

I don't know how much the Ritzy is but if there's 5 or 6 of us going to the cinema, you have to budget.

We've often been to Streatham or Surrey Quays but they're further afield and much more expensive.

[monica]

tallulah71 Wrote:

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> Isn't Burgess Park the South American one? Lots of

> Irish peeps travel to South America...a great

> meeting of minds. Great music, fancy dancing,

> questionable cuisine. Could be a winner!

I hear you Tallulah, although I much prefer the Irish Jig, and my background is latin.>:D< However on a serious note, I heard the Burgess park festival had gone more international, and had integrated the Irish one into it!!

I did also hear on the Southwark council grapevine, that Southwark were going to a host a one off event, which would have cost ?70000+. However it had been cancelled for all the obvious reasons. ?70000+ obvious reasons. However please ask James Barber,

[Sue]

minder Wrote:

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> Sue - I can't see how going to Peckham Cinema is a

> really depressing experience, especially if your

> watching a good film!

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Have you been there? Unless it has greatly improved, the whole decor and general atmosphere is absolutely awful.

[tallulah71]

Sue Wrote:

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> > Sue - I can't see how going to Peckham Cinema is

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> > really depressing experience, especially if

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> > watching a good film!

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> Have you been there? Unless it has greatly

> improved, the whole decor and general atmosphere

> is absolutely awful.

Coupled with the fact that people are having conversations on their mobile, or texting throughout. Terrible cinema. Ritzy much better value...

[El Pibe]

never really found a problem with it, mind you there's rarely more than five other people whenever I manage a film.

But ?4.99 each compared with ?12 at PH cinemas...can't argue with them numbers!

ETS - unless the prices have dropped, which they seem to have.

EATS - except at weekends, when memory serves me right.

[minder]

I've never had a problem with it either and been using it for around 10 years. Was there in the Easter hols to watch 'The Hunger Games'.

[dulwichgirl2]

These events should be self financing or, in good years, attract a small subsidy.

How completely ridiculous to have spent 52k on it. Which councillors voted for that, does anyone know?

[BigED]

Sue - once you're sitting in a darkened room watching a film, you're in a darkened room watching a film. For most people in East Dulwich, Peckham is easier to get to than Brixton and it's cheaper. And indeed, once it's gone, it's gone.

As for the Irish Festival, BrandNewGuy, ?52k for two days of fun for people of all ages doesn't seem too bad- maybe the council aren't so fussed about the Irish community any more but two days of free entertainment - music, dancing, sport, comedy and, yes, Guinness, was alawys good fun and helped link in with Irish groups in the borough and gave the Southwark Irish diaspora an opporunity to come together, meet up and have fun. There's no crime in a council using money to help people have fun. I'm not Irish but I always enjoyed the Irish festival. The only year it wasn't any good was when they tried to merge it with the much bigger Latin American festival in Burgess Park. The Irsh Festival was tucked away in a far corner and the only music you could hear was the heavily amplified latin rhythms. Keep the two celebrations separate and let us all join in the fun at both of them.

[the-e-dealer]

Unless you are in a darkened room with people talking on mobile phones walking in and out, eating Fried Food rustling paper and generally being very distracting. There isnt much going on in Peckham for "The Yoof" and they tend to use the Cinema to Hang out. Its just a matter of chosing which Film they are not going to use.

[BigED]

the-e-dealer - I think you're confusing it with Streatham Odeon! As for hanging out in the cinema, I find that the Yoof don't go for anything foreign or arty. Steer clear of the Hollywood blockbusters and kid-friendly films and we're mostly ok. And going to Brixton is no guarantee of a quality experience - for that you have to get up early at the weekend and go into town to the Chelsea Cinema - ?6 for films starting before 14.00, big screen, almost nobody else there. Once you're over the shock of getting up it's fine. Alternatively, support your local film society and check out Dulwich Paradiso. As with any of the local amenities, use them or lose them (in which case you'll end up with no choice but to go to Brixton or Clapham or Chelsea...).

I sense we're getting off topic. I'd still like to see the Irish festival come back. Maybe dulwich Paradiso could run an Irish Film Festival to coincide if/when Southwark Council relents.

[DJKillaQueen]

I go to Peckham Cinema regularly. I go to watch a movie and never have any complaints about the experience or quality of projection for example (have complained about out of focus projectors a couple of times at the Ritzy and Clapham Picture House though). Only once have I been in an audience at Peckham where someone was chatting on their mobile. And I stood up in the middle of the cinema and told them in no uncertain terms to turn it off and they did! I agree with whoever said it above. Certain movies, at certain times of the day or on certain days are going to attract younger and/or noisier audiences, but that is the same in every cinema. At 4.99 Peckham is affordable, especially for families and those on low incomes....or are we going to suggest that cinema should become the preserve of the middle classes and elite? It would be a great loss to the Peckham area to lose it.

On the Irish Festival though, never struck me as good value for that level of funding. And like many, given that the council only funded half the cost, am mystified as to why the Irish Festival organisers couldn't still have organised a scaled down version of the event at half the cost. Is 26K not enough to have done that?