Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Those who seem to get left out of the debate to some extent are people earning around the ?120k mark with children. These people have lost the personal allowance last year (soon costing them ?9250 at 40% = ?3700 per year) and are also losing the child benefit - another ?1-?3k per year. That's a lot of money to lose out of net income for a family at ?500+ per month.


Every time the personal allowance goes up the impact of losing their personal allowance, as against the general population, is greater. Every year they are giving more away as compared to others.


This probably affects quite a few ED families.

Brendan - the Office od Budget Responsibility produced the figures, they said there are some significant caveats but I guess I'd trust them more than someone who didn't even seem to get the very basics of the budget. Go away and read some of it thn just spouting maybe? Won't hold my breath. shhhhs I'm amazed you live where you do given your hatred of city types....


The incraesed stamp duty on ?2M+ properties and the closing of the 'company' purchasing on residential property will cover the ?1.5bn the 50% rate was actually raising, and won't give our country such a bad reputation as a place to do business.


As I've saide before great jobs that they do - teachers, doctors and our army can't pay the UK's way in the world (well Eton, Harley Street and mercenaries can contribute) so sadly we have to try and keep some of those scummy, rich business people, enrtrepreneurs, wealth creators and dare I say even some bankers and even attract some foreighn ones I'll go an wash my mouth out staright away and tatoo the Guardiuan masthead on my arse in penance for even mentioning this unpleasant reality.

What Mick said, anyone earning 70k-120k with young families are the worst affected overall (TO BE CLEAR I mean relatively, obviously it's very decent money), going to be a few of them round here. Given London house prices etc I guess in the long term something will have to give....discretionary spending in all those nick nack shops/school fess for those that do/moving out away etc)

Oh good.


Anyway I only read the Guardian for the same reason I read the Telegraph. Out of a kind of morbid fascination with the tenuous, illogical crap people can come up with to justify their pre-determined positions.


Although I do have to admit that it is less tasteless watching people trying to justify self-righteous idealism and well meaning idiocy than prejudice and exploitation.

I don't read any of them, because I don't want to be labelled.


Quids, you're right about the pension thing not effecting state pensions, but it's not only public sector workers retiring on final salary pensions who will be effected.


Lots of elderly people have various little, or not so little, pensions from the firms they worked for for years, back when things were better all round, and you could get a decent pension from a normal working class job if you put the years in. These people will be losing out.

Keef, at the edges you are right. so people with a small non-sate pension will be affected. I think this sort of thing is inevitable with tinkering with allowances etc (see also the furore over Child Benefit) but understand why these poeple would be affected and it's unfair to a degree but many and a growing number of 'pensioners; are really pretty well set up - it's not like 20 years ago when many pensioners were people who had been through the war and were relying on state pensions solely, ans were seeing their benefits frozen and VAT put on fuel by Major's govt...now that was fucking disgusting. Basically it's Mick. Keef's, Paul and Ringos generation who are retiring right now I guess the only way round this is some kind of means tetsed benefit but that's not easy or neccessrily ideal.


PS I made the point of saying Private and Public sector pensioners together BTW, on this issue at the moment there's not huge differences as most Private sector workers who are nw retired WITH a pension have a final salary pension, not all and not all of them are massive as you allude too.

Although I do have to admit that it is less tasteless watching people trying to justify self-righteous idealism and well meaning idiocy than prejudice and exploitation.


Agree with that, It's why I still tend to prefer the company of lefties to righties, despite the fact they'd have us all bankrupt before you could say Polly Tonybee :))

Brendan - "Although I do have to admit that it is less tasteless watching people trying to justify self-righteous idealism and well meaning idiocy than prejudice and exploitation."


(tu) seconded.

The latter part might be a bit harsh though.

I'd have gone with "self-righteous self-interest and exploitation".

???? Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Although I do have to admit that it is less

> tasteless watching people trying to justify

> self-righteous idealism and well meaning idiocy

> than prejudice and exploitation.

>

> Agree with that, It's why I still tend to prefer

> the company of lefties to righties, despite the

> fact they'd have us all bankrupt before you could

> say Polly Tonybee :))


I thought it was only me who read the Guardian to laugh/cry at some of the opinion pieces.

???? Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Agree with that, It's why I still tend to prefer

> the company of lefties to righties,



I think some current righties are former young lefties. The majority of people grow up with little money and hence left wing views are attractive to them irrespective of their parents financial position.


Therefore if you are spending time with young people when you are young then you are likely to have a convergence of views.


Its hard to shift... irrespective of what happens when you are near 50. Its part of growing up, just a latter part of life 'grow up'.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Does anyone know when the next SNT meeting is? I am fed up with my son being mugged on East Dulwich Grove! 
    • The issue must be everywhere at the moment. I was visiting a friend last week in Bermondsey, think we were walking  down Linton Rd & we dodged 7 dog poos. It was disgusting. 
    • Thanks for your message — I actually took the time to look into what CityHive does before posting my original comment, and I’d encourage anyone with questions to do the same. Yes, the Companies House filings are overdue — but from what I’ve gathered, this seems likely to be an accountant or admin issue, not some sign of ill intent. A lot of small, community-based organisations face challenges keeping up with formalities, especially when they’re focused on immediate needs like food distribution. Let’s not forget CityHive is a not-for-profit, volunteer-powered CIC — not a corporate machine. As for the directors, people stepping down or being replaced is often about capacity or commitment — which is completely normal in the voluntary and community sector. New directors are sometimes appointed when others can no longer give the time. It doesn’t automatically mean bad governance — it just means people’s circumstances change. CityHive’s actual work speaks volumes. They buy most of the food they distribute — fresh produce, essential groceries, and shelf-stable items — and then deliver it to food banks, soup kitchens, and community projects across London. The food doesn’t stay with CityHive — it goes out to local food hubs, and from there, directly to people who need it most. And while yes, there may be a few paid staff handling logistics or admin, there’s a huge volunteer effort behind the scenes that often goes unseen. Regular people giving their time to drive vans, sort donations, load pallets, pack food parcels — that’s what keeps things running. And when people don’t volunteer? Those same tasks still need to be done — which means they have to be paid for. Otherwise, the whole thing grinds to a halt. As the need grows, organisations like CityHive will inevitably need more support — both in people and funding. But the bigger issue here isn’t one small CIC trying to make ends meet. The real issue is the society we live in — and a government that isn’t playing its part in eradicating poverty. If it were, organisations like CityHive, The Felix Project, City Harvest, FareShare, and the Trussell Trust wouldn’t need to exist, let alone be thriving. They thrive because the need is growing. That’s not a reflection on them — it’s a reflection on a broken system that allows people to go hungry in one of the richest cities in the world. If you're in doubt about what they’re doing, go check their Instagram: @cityhivemedia. You’ll see the real organisations and people receiving food, sharing thanks, and showing how far the impact reaches. Even Southwark Foodbank has received food from CityHive — that alone should speak volumes. So again — how does any of this harm you personally? Why spend time trying to discredit a group trying to support those who are falling through the cracks? We need more people lifting others up — not adding weight to those already carrying the load.
    • Well, this is very disappointing. Malabar Feast  has changed its menu again. The delicious fish curry with sea bass no longer exists. There is now a fish dish with raw mango, which doesn't appeal. I had dal and spinach instead, which was bland (which I suppose I could/should have predicted). One of my visitors had a "vegetable Biriani" which contained hardly any vegetables. Along with it came two extremely tiny pieces of poppadom in a large paper bag.   This was embarrassing, as I had been singing Malabar's praises and recommending we ordered from there. The other mains and the parathas were OK, but I doubt we will be ordering from there again. My granddaughters wisely opted for Yard Sale pizzas, which were fine. Has anybody else had a similar recent poor (or indeed good!)  experience at Malabar Feast?
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...