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[fredfrog]

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[Marmora Man]

Even better in the evening when they catch the setting sun, glowing red and pink.

[El Pibe]

Blimey, another one. I reckon they must be putting something in the water ;-)

[New Nexus]

Ya,fluoride.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm

crap in the air, crap in the water.

[El Pibe]

Hmm, no sense of irony. Maybe you are American after all, juice box boy.

[Huguenot]

That's right NN - they put fluoride in the water BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTROL YOUR BRAIN.

However small it is

[New Nexus]

50 empirical facts and yet you chose to dwell on pointless trivia.

speaks volumes, me thinks.

[El Pibe]

"May" == "expressing possibility"

"May" != " empirical fact"

[New Nexus]

And the biscuit smelling prefects wander the dark halls of EDF once again, pronouncing their wisdom and truth.

[El Pibe]

You've posted an article, I read it.

It discusses whether or not water fluoridation is desirable.

It make some good points, which are essentially opinion, but many of them quite sensible.

Then it goes on to say that some studies may indicate x or y. These niche studies from places like China and Iran aren't really going to do much to sway established world medical opinion based on over 50 years of fluoridation, ie a sample set of billions.

That doesn't equal 50 empirical facts.

For my part I'm inclined to agree that it ought to be a matter of choice, but then most of us choose to brush our teeth with flouridated toothpaste rather than have gums full of rotten stubs.

And there the article leaves it.

There is no suggestion of conspiracy or nefarious effects or motives for doing so.

The fact that you're posting it on a thread about chem trails means you seem (and forgive me if my inferences are incorrect) to be implying that because fluoridation of water exists, that means they also put chemicals in aircraft fuel.

Do you have 50 empirical facts about what they are and what they are intended to achieve.

Saying 'I watched Jacob's Ladder so it must be true" is not an acceptable answer.

[New Nexus]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> That's right NN - they put fluoride in the water

> BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO CONTROL YOUR BRAIN.

>

> However small it is

Good, good the fluoride is working to destabilize your neurological pathways.

This is double plus good.

How many minutes of hate a day do we have to do?

[Huguenot]

This is a thread about condensation trails, and you've attempted to divert it to flouridation in the US.

You've quoted 50 facts that basically boil down to 49 that can be classifed as speculative or irrelevant, and just one that's the traditional New Nexus moronic US free market principle 'the New World Order are putting this in our water without our consent'

'Fluoride may... [...]' is pointless Daily Mail bollocks, where coffee, chocolate and red wine both cure and cause cancer on an oscillation lasting several hours.

Incidentally, just to really hammer the point home, in the UK decisions on fluoridation are made on a local basis by elected indiviudals in our representative democracy based on sound medical advice.

Unlike in your head, where decisions are made based on stupid made-up nonsense.

[El Pibe]

Interesting use of newspeak.

I realise you're trying to imply that Huguenot is a victim of the state's propoganda, but ironically in using it you are betraying the symptoms of newspeak's nefarious intention, that is to curb an individual's analytical faculties through reduction of the linguistic tools available to support them.

You see? Oh, irony again, sorry.

[New Nexus]

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/hr2977ih.htm

[El Pibe]

And?

What are you analytical faculties extrapolating from that document?

[New Nexus]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> And?

>

> What are you analytical faculties extrapolating

> from that document?

Why would congressman Dennis Kucinich want to band chemtrails if they do not exist.

[El Pibe]

He also wants to ban exotic weapons "designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space".

In fact most of the weapon systems he refers to either only exist in science fiction or in speculative discussions about what we might be able to achieve in the future, or are in early research status.

Just becaus Ronald Reagan fanatasised about much of it, doesn't mean it exists.

I've no reason why this chap decided to propose such catch all legislation with no particluar focus in mind.

It doesn't however prove anything.

If he'd suggested banning the use of medically untested chemical sprays such as Agent Orange over populations, even in war time, I'm sure everyone would get behind that.

Have you stopped to think that even if they did exist, spilling a few chemical at 30,000 ft will simply be dispersed?

As you saw from the Moscow Theatre hostage crisis, dosing is hard to do even in a relatively controlled environment.

Chucking it out of the back of planes, civilian airliners at that?

a)Pointless

b)Pure fantasy

Come on proof.

[Huguenot]

Eh, what?

New Nexus, you're subscribing to the belief that "trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for purposes undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by government officials."

Your evidence for this is a US congressman who uses the term in the same breath as 'psychotronic weapons' (which is essentially killing people by staring at them to death using the power of your brain) - a phrase referring to a fictitious cult weapon used in a 1980 B-Movie?

You are messed up.

[El Pibe]

NN, you are Donald Rumsfeld and I claim my ?5.

"There's another way to phrase that and that is that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. It is basically saying the same thing in a different way. Simply because you do not have evidence that something does exist does not mean that you have evidence that it doesn't exist."

[Marmora Man]

I still think the condensation trails are pretty as the sun sets!

[El Pibe]

I agree, though probably because of the powerful hallucinogens we're inhaling as we look at them!

[New Nexus]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> Eh, what?

>

> New Nexus, you're subscribing to the belief that

> "trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or

> biological agents deliberately sprayed at high

> altitudes for purposes undisclosed to the general

> public in clandestine programs directed by

> government officials."

>

> Your evidence for this is a US congressman who

> uses the term in the same breath as 'psychotronic

> weapons' (which is essentially killing people by

> staring at them to death using the power of your

> brain) - a phrase referring to a fictitious cult

> weapon used in a 1980 B-Movie?

>

> You are messed up.

No governments would never deliberately expose people to such things.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/02/health/research/02infect.html?pagewanted=all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

Grow up.

[New Nexus]

Marmora Man Wrote:

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> I still think the condensation trails are pretty

> as the sun sets!

Vietnam vets said the bombs they dropped look like flowers blooming ? they were smashed out their tiny heads at the time.

[Huguenot]

More relentless crap from America - what is wrong with you? Why are you obsessed with America?

Dredging up unethical controlled medical experiments from history to prove that contrails are chemical mind control experiments on the population has as much validity as claiming that the Gunpowder Plot proves the Catholics are engaged in psychotic cow mutation through electomagnetic waves.

As for implying that Marmora Man is part of the conspiracy and high on drugs, it beggars belief.

[New Nexus]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> More relentless crap from America - what is wrong

> with you? Why are you obsessed with America?

>

> Dredging up unethical controlled medical

> experiments from history to prove that contrails

> are chemical mind control experiments on the

> population has as much validity as claiming that

> the Gunpowder Plot proves the Catholics are

> engaged in psychotic cow mutation through

> electomagnetic waves.

>

> As for implying that Marmora Man is part of the

> conspiracy and high on drugs, it beggars belief.

"Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It"

Go back to sleep, all is well.