Jogger on Peckham Rye (Road) this evening

[JohnL]

Any pedestrian in the road for whatever reason has right of way.

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> I think the rule is that once a pedestrian has

> steeped onto a crossing you must give way but that

> a pedestrian must wait for approaching traffic to

> stop before doing that or be sure approaching

> traffic is far away enough for it to safely stop.

> That means the onus is on the pedestrian to

> facilitate safe crossing.

[Harsh-but-Fair]

"Any pedestrian in the road for whatever reason has right of way."

I am a big fan of roads for cars pavement for joggers! Mixing the 2 up is dangerous (well mainly for the joggers!)

I think the apology was reasonable. I too as both a jogger and driver have come across indecisive and often selfish joggers who equipped with headphones are oblivious to the dangers of running between cars, and are affronted that they have to stop at a junction and jog on the spot - grumbling that the car driver has the audacity to be on the road.

ibilly99 has a point -In the spirit of East Dulwich recycling- all joggers should carry donor cards!

[the-e-dealer]

Highway Code

Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped.

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Where there is an island in the middle of a zebra crossing, wait on the island and follow Rule 19 before you cross the second half of the road ? it is a separate crossing.

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At traffic lights. There may be special signals for pedestrians. You should only start to cross the road when the green figure shows. If you have started to cross the road and the green figure goes out, you should still have time to reach the other side, but do not delay. If no pedestrian signals have been provided, watch carefully and do not cross until the traffic lights are red and the traffic has stopped. Keep looking and check for traffic that may be turning the corner. Remember that traffic lights may let traffic move in some lanes while traffic in other lanes has stopped.

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Pelican crossings. These are signal-controlled crossings operated by pedestrians. Push the control button to activate the traffic signals. When the red figure shows, do not cross. When a steady green figure shows, check the traffic has stopped then cross with care. When the green figure begins to flash you should not start to cross. If you have already started you should have time to finish crossing safely.

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Puffin crossings differ from pelican crossings as the red and green figures are above the control box on your side of the road and there is no flashing green figure phase. Press the button and wait for the green figure to show.

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When the road is congested, traffic on your side of the road may be forced to stop even though their lights are green. Traffic may still be moving on the other side of the road, so press the button and wait for the signal to cross.

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Toucan crossings are light-controlled crossings which allow cyclists and pedestrians to share crossing space and cross at the same time. They are push-button operated. Pedestrians and cyclists will see the green signal together. Cyclists are permitted to ride across.

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At some crossings there is a bleeping sound or voice signal to indicate to blind or partially sighted people when the steady green figure is showing, and there may be a tactile signal to help deafblind people.

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Equestrian crossings are for horse riders. They have pavement barriers, wider crossing spaces, horse and rider figures in the light panels and either two sets of controls (one higher), or just one higher control panel.

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?Staggered? pelican or puffin crossings. When the crossings on each side of the central refuge are not in line they are two separate crossings. On reaching the central island, press the button again and wait for a steady green figure.

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Crossings controlled by an authorised person. Do not cross the road unless you are signalled to do so by a police officer, traffic warden or school crossing patrol. Always cross in front of them.

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Where there are no controlled crossing points available it is advisable to cross where there is an island in the middle of the road. Use the Green Cross Code (see Rule 7) to cross to the island and then stop and use it again to cross the second half of the road.

Situations needing extra care

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Emergency vehicles. If an ambulance, fire engine, police or other emergency vehicle approaches using flashing blue lights, headlights and/or sirens, keep off the road.

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Buses. Get on or off a bus only when it has stopped to allow you to do so. Watch out for cyclists when you are getting off. Never cross the road directly behind or in front of a bus. Wait until it has moved off and you can see clearly in both directions.

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Tramways. These may run through pedestrian areas. Their path will be marked out by shallow kerbs, changes in the paving or other road surface, white lines or yellow dots. Cross at designated crossings where provided. Elsewhere treat trams as you would other road vehicles and look both ways along the track before crossing. Do not walk along the track as trams may come up behind you. Trams move quietly and cannot steer to avoid you.

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Railway level crossings. You MUST NOT cross or pass a stop line when the red lights show, (including a red pedestrian figure). Also do not cross if an alarm is sounding or the barriers are being lowered. The tone of the alarm may change if another train is approaching. If there are no lights, alarms or barriers, stop, look both ways and listen before crossing. A tactile surface comprising rounded bars running across the direction of pedestrian travel may be installed on the footpath approaching a level crossing to warn visually impaired people of its presence. The tactile surface should extend across the full width of the footway and should be located at an appropriate distance from the barrier or projected line of the barrier.

[Law TSRGD, reg 52]

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Street and pavement repairs. A pavement may be closed temporarily because it is not safe to use. Take extra care if you are directed to walk in or to cross the road.

[Marie81]

Miss P is it nice of you to apologise to the jogger and I hope if she reads this forum that she will learn to use her common sense when crossing the rd in the future. Yes cars are meant to stop to allow people to cross the pedestrian crossing first but don't we all still stop and check its safe before running into the road?! I can't tell you the amount of times I have been waiting at a crossing and a car has driven through ignoring me or as a driver when at a roundabout and it being my right of way the other driver has completely ignored giving way to the right and driven on! You have to be cautious at all times whether you know you are in the right or not because even though you may know the highway code inside out unfortunately there are plenty of others out there who don't or simply choose to ignore the rules.

[the-e-dealer]

The clever thing about the Highway code is that in most cases there is double safety. Eg you should indicate when turning but equally dont assume the car in front isn't turning.(The Famous Manoeuvre Signal Mirror people)