Abe_froeman Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I think there a two elements to this : 1) trust in the unelected employees of the council to work in the best interest of the public and not to their agenda and 2) trust in the elected representatives to hold the employees of the council to account on behalf of the public and to stand up to those council employees where they act outside our interests.I have no trust in the employees of the council at Tooley St. I have even less trust in the councillors. I think they are generally either doing nothing but enjoying the ceremonial status of the role or, worse, simply acting as a mouthpiece for the council and standing up against the public when we confront projects that are not in our interests Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1335807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 cella Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Well with Momentum poised to target Harriet> Harmans long held seat it will be interesting to> see if anything filters down to the local level> afterwards.I thought she was in the running for Speaker when it all settles down. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1335813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckman Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 As a council employee we do our best .. every decision needs a report to be signed off by IDM (individual decision maker) or cabinet . . Being from the inside and also worked for other boroughs in the past . Be careful what you wush for . They are a pretty good bunch (cabinet ) . Ward cllra are hit and miss Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1336424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe_froeman Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 less and less so Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1450511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seenbeen Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 No- not since the Lib. Dem./ Tory days Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1450527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe_froeman Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Every day I trust them less and less Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zig-Zag Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 No I don't Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddles Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Nope Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartblock Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Nah Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab29 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 No. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Oh absolutely trust them , to twist facts in their favour and stick two fingers up at the people who voted them in 😭 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Nope, Labour have shown to run the council as their own little fiefdom by shoehorning schemes such as the current LTN to get government money, regardless of the views of residents.It's even worse in Lewisham where Labour have no opposition. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatherJack Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Absolutely not. If we have 100% representation from any one political party, as we do, then this is what we get. Mistrust.And some of us are represented by councillors who hold positions in organisations that work in the interests of major house builders and developers in the Borough of Southwark. Surely a conflict of interest? But perhaps The Labour Party are too busy disregarding women to even discuss this as a motion. Their hypocrisy is stunning and they aren?t even a decent opposition party. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I do trust Tooley Street. It's always there when I need to use it. In fact that can be said about most roads in the UK, we haven't lost many down sink holes or through earth quakes and even during the blitz they still managed to operate. Occasionally the names change which can be confusing but I don't think that there are any plans to change the name of Tooley Street. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 It's always there when I need to use it.Actually quite substantial portions were blocked off, sometimes even to pedestrian traffic, during the London Bridge Station re-build - but maybe you didn't need to use it then, or maybe you're just being ingenuous. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4321 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I trust them to work in favour of their vested interests and the property developers who outwit them. The one party state doesn?t serve me or my family or neighbours. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I occasionally cycle down Tooley Street and used to drink down there before it got redeveloped. Hadn't clocked any of it was closed, last time I drove (and maybe the only time) was to pick up a telly from Richer Sounds three years ago Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1538655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalalien Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Quite an interesting report prepared by housing development officers for the upcoming housing and community engagement commission, case study of resident engagement re proposed rooftop devt and infill housing at Brenchley Gardens. Another example of the inadequacy of Commonplace as an engagement tool (too much generic spin in the questions asked), and there seems to be some friction between officers and ward councillors about who said what to the tenants. This is a case study but doubtless similar issues on lots of other estates (here it seems that the inclusion of an infill building in the plans - needed to finance the whole scheme - wasn?t sufficiently flagged up). I think there?s a systemic problem around community engagement.https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s101819/Report%20New%20council%20homes%20on%20existing%20estates%20-%20Case%20Study%201%20-%20Brenchley%20Gardens.pdf Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1539159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalalien Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Another interesting bit from a council report, this one about a recommendation that the council extend its current corporate liability insurance rather than go out to tender at this stage: ?As part of any retender exercise, potential bidders will look at the council?s claims experience. There is currently a very large reserve against an employer?s liability claim due to a recent review which resulted in the reserve being increased substantially. There has also been deterioration generally in the last 12 months in the employer?s liability claims experience. This would affect how the council is viewed and likely the bids submitted at a tender.?Wonder what went on there.https://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s102038/Report.pdf Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1539790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPR Dave Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Still no and getting more sceptical. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1629211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPR Dave Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Every day I trust them less and less... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1640958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Who the Tories? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1641209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringTime Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Sweep and clear. That's Tooley Street and the Tories. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/220751-do-you-trust-tooley-st/page/2/#findComment-1641212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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