Crystal Palace Road

[GraceLondon]

Hello, does anyone live on Crystal Palace Road and what is the general consensus for a family to live there? Is it very busy? Any advice would be much appreciated as we are thinking of buying . Thank you.

[Pugwash]

It has always been a busy road and depends which end you are thinking of. I do not live in the road but use it regularly to get to East Dulwich Road. Difficult to park a car in road especially on a Saturday when the North Cross Road market is on. However a CPZ is proposed for this road which may make a difference.

[granadaland]

Hi

We live on CPR and like it a lot.

Not a busy road but you may not always be able to park directly outside your house due to gym users, other residents and visiting shoppers etc, depending which end you will be.

Wide road at goose green end, doesn?t get traffic congestion. 5 min walk to amenities. Interesting mix of housing stock.

Don?t think there?s anything you should be overly worried about but off street parking would be a bonus and something that would be high on my list if I was to do it all over again.

[GraceLondon]

Thank you very much, very helpful. Bit worried about the parking but thinking this may be rectified if the Residents permits are to come into place. That being said, parking directly outside ones house is a luxury in London.. as long as we can park fairly close we will manage. Thanks again.

[GraceLondon]

Thank you very much, we will be near Heber School. We have recced on the weekend and seemed fairly uncontested. Reassured that the road is not a bus route.

[singalto]

If I?m not mistaken, CPR will become a cycle quiet way in the near future so one side of the road will lose its parking.

[civilservant]

i wasn't aware of that, singalto - which quietway is this and when will it come into operation?

nothing on the TFL quietway pages to indicate this

[rendelharris]

civilservant Wrote:

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> i wasn't aware of that, singalto - which quietway

> is this and when will it come into operation?

> nothing on the TFL quietway pages to indicate this

It's going to be part of the Southwark Spine cycling/walking route, not part of the Quietway - that runs to the west (Greendale/Champion Hill/Camberwell Grove).

[GraceLondon]

Thanks for this. Trying to find information on this on the council website. Not clear as to how this will be implemented and the impact for residents. Will keep looking later.

[MarkT]

The Council is probably keeping quiet about the Quietway until they've got the CPZ agreed. If people knew that so much parking will be lost to the Quietway they'd probably vote against the CPZ.

The plans for slowing traffic in Barry Road have been shelved because they would remove too many parking spaces around the proposed islands.

Clearing all the clutter of parked cars from Crystal Palace Road, while simultaneously increasing the bus lane restrictions in Lordship Lane. will also turn CPR into rat run and a race track for cars as well as bikes, so people might have realised that the CPZ promise of safer streets is a nonsense.

[GraceLondon]

This is a concern as we will be planning to move here long term. If it becomes a rat run without any discernible parking available, will become a hindrance. I am not sure what to make of this or whether to rethink.

[KidKruger]

what's timeline for this quiet way / when would locals be consulted ?

[Pugwash]

The quiet way consultation originally took place in early 2018 - I recall it as there was concerns raised by Christ Church that church goers, groups and those attending the Bread of Life caf? would be affected. It also covered Friern, Etherow, Barry and Landells Road as well as Crystal Palace Road.

[rendelharris]

Just to reiterate, CPR is not part of the Quietway (TfL initiative) but the Southwark Spine (Southwark Council initiative).

[PeckhamRose]

At the Heber Road end you have Dulwich Chiropractic at 277 CPR. There is an issue which they are collecting signature for, regarding the CPZ. So that could also affect you there.

[GraceLondon]

Thanks. I'm not sure I understand, is the chiropractor canvasing for the CPZ or is this a separate matter?

[Sue]

GraceLondon Wrote:

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> Thanks. I'm not sure I understand, is the

> chiropractor canvasing for the CPZ or is this a

> separate matter?

The chiropractor definitely does not want a CPZ because it would mean patients with a mobility problem potentially having to park some way from his clinic, and then not be able to walk there.

Therefore it will impact on his business, because they will go to a chiropractor where they can park within a reasonable distance.

He is a very good chiropractor, btw!

[GraceLondon]

Thank you for clarifying, makes sense.

[Charles Martel]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Just to reiterate, CPR is not part of the Quietway

> (TfL initiative) but the Southwark Spine

> (Southwark Council initiative).

From the Southwark Green Party website Apr 18, 2018

https://www.southwarkgreenparty.org.uk/camberwellandpeckham

"Southwark's consultation sham

Why do councillors ignore residents' views?

Last year, Southwark Council ran a consultation on its proposed 'Southwark Spine' cycle route. Local people and road safety experts said the designs would make cycling more dangerous, especially around Bellenden Road. In fact, 63% of people who replied opposed it.

But just before the election was called, one of the Labour councillors for this area, Ian Wingfield, signed off the scheme.

Eleanor Margolies says: "This makes a mockery of the idea of consultation."

[pebs]

To be clear the proposed Southwark Spine does NOT involve losing half the parking spaces. I have seen the plans and it would ony be round corners - which would be the same as the CPZ! CPR is a fab road. Have been here for 14 years and love it!

[civilservant]

thanks for the pointer to the Southwark Spine, rendel - the plans are here https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/eastdulwichtopeckham/supporting_documents/Consultation%20Plan.pdf

it does look as if there will be some loss of parking on CPR, but not excessively so

but i need to be convinced that removing the traffic-calming islands on CPR in the interest of improved cyclist amenity is a sensible suggestion

[Earl Aelfheah]

What I cannot see from the Southwark Spine consultation, is whether there will be any changes to make it easier to cross from Kelly Avenue to Lyndhurst Way? It is pretty difficult currently.