Council parks to charge ?2ph parking fee from 1 April

[James Barber]

Southwark Council has decide to introduce car parking fees in its larger parked - Belair, Dulwich and Peckham Rye parks - http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s80898/Report%20-%20Car%20parking%20charges%20in%20parks.pdf

Charge will be ?2 ph, free for Blue Badge Holders.

[mrwb]

Just gets better and better. I suppose inevitable due to the CPZ which will obviously come in regardless. Also Southwark seemingly desperate for cash..

[tiddles]

So people not lucky enough to live near an open space get penalised more.

[first mate]

Given how difficult it is to get a Blue Badge I imagine this will leave numbers of people with mobility issues now having to pay for the privilege of using the park. People should not be hoodwinked into thinking that because Blue Badge holders are exempt that the needs of the infirm and disabled are covered.

[singalto]

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[Asset]

Well on that logic - there is an obesity crisis - let's get people out of their cars.

[fishbiscuits]

Yeah the obesity/exercise argument makes literally no sense at all.

Walk to the sodding park FFS.

[beansprout]

If you go to either Hyde Park or Kensington Gardens one has to pay.

Ruskin Park and Brockwell Park also have to pay - in Ruskin it is linked to resident parking so have to pay between noon - 2pm.

Anyway, councils are strapped for cash so if one wants to enjoy the park and drive one pays - most people can cycle, walk, take a bus! And do what a good number do now - park on nearby roads which is free.

Mothers who have children activities in Francis Peake Building will have to pay or park further away and walk/ carry babies and toddlers.

About time people stop taking things for granted.

I wonder what happens to community groups? Do they have a different rate? Free or Pay?

One assumes that there will be notices in carparks about this.

Agree with Asset.

[DulwichFox]

motorists are an easy target.

I've just got rid of my car so Southwark will get sod all from me unless they start charging to WALk

through the park.

Once they start charging you can bet your life saving car parks will be made larger.

Time to get rid of Taxing Labour Southwark council

[sheff]

Ridiculous.

Gallery Road is already a nightmare at drop off and pick up with parking both sides of the road around Dulwich Prep.

This will just make the situation worse and also mean people using the park, playground and all the clubs on Saturdays are less likely to.

[DulwichFox]

Southwark Council

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,

If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.

If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,

If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

[snowy]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Southwark Council

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> If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,

> If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.

> If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,

> If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

Are you really quoting a song from a band who actively took tax avoidance measures?!

[DuncanW]

I think they became tax exiles as they felt the marginal rate of tax of 95% was a bit high.

"there's one for you, nineteen for me"

I'd be inclined to sympathise although don't think I would have written a song moaning about it :)

[MrsR]

And everyone who lives in the roads surrounding the parks will be affected by those visiting them and wanting to avoid paying for parking and parking outside our houses instead.

[Abe_froeman]

Well, the then Labour government was charging them 95% income tax. Anyone vaguely sensible would have tried to avoid that.

[rendelharris]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Time to get rid of Taxing Labour Southwark

> council

Or time to get rid of austerity Tory government that has slashed budgets so badly that all councils (including Tory ones) are forced to try and raise revenue wherever they can to try and avoid cuts in essential services?

[Abe_froeman]

everyone who lives in the roads surrounding the parks will be saved by the council's CPZ which you cane be sure will go ahead.

[DulwichFox]

snowy Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > Southwark Council

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> > If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,

> > If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.

> > If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,

> > If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

>

> Are you really quoting a song from a band who

> actively took tax avoidance measures?!

John Lennon?s second wife, Yoko Ono, is a naturalized American citizen. Their son Sean was born in New York, and is therefore an American citizen. Ringo Starr?s second wife, Barbara Bach, is American. George Harrison met his second wife, Olivia, in Los Angeles, where she grew up.

The Beatles had been paying tax at 95%

Get your facts right.

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Time to get rid of Taxing Labour Southwark

> council

And you think a non-Labour Southwark council would have made money how?

It is the Tory so-called government who has cut council funding to the bone, as I understand it.

How do you understand it?

[DuncanW]

>

> Time to get rid of Taxing Labour Southwark

> council

The time to do that would have been at the election that was held less than a year ago, the voting public of Southwark don't seem to share your view

[DulwichFox]

Sue Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> >

> > Time to get rid of Taxing Labour Southwark

> > council

>

>

> And you think a non-Labour Southwark council would

> have made money how?

>

> It is the Tory so-called government who has cut

> council funding to the bone, as I understand it.

>

> How do you understand it?

I understand that under its current leadership Labour is unelectable.

But that's a different story.

You cannot use the motorist for every shortfall in Council Funding.

Southwark Council wasting Millions on unnecessary road schemes that do nothing to improve traffic flow.

There should be no need to charge people to park their cars in our Parks.

I would like to know who came up with that little Nugget.

[snowy]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> snowy Wrote:

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> > DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > -----

> > > Southwark Council

> > >

> > > If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,

> > > If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.

> > > If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,

> > > If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

> >

> > Are you really quoting a song from a band who

> > actively took tax avoidance measures?!

>

> John Lennon?s second wife, Yoko Ono, is a

> naturalized American citizen. Their son Sean was

> born in New York, and is therefore an American

> citizen. Ringo Starr?s second wife, Barbara Bach,

> is American. George Harrison met his second wife,

> Olivia, in Los Angeles, where she grew up.

>

> The Beatles had been paying tax at 95%

>

> Get your facts right.

I'm not really sure why you adapted that info from here: https://www.quora.com/Are-any-of-the-Beatles-family-US-citizens nor why the national status of their wives has any relevance to the fact that they set up the Northern Songs company and then Apple to minimise their tax exposure?

Anyway, we're wandering away from car parking costs...

[uncleglen]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > Time to get rid of Taxing Labour Southwark

> > council

>

> Or time to get rid of austerity Tory government

> that has slashed budgets so badly that all

> councils (including Tory ones) are forced to try

> and raise revenue wherever they can to try and

> avoid cuts in essential services?

Anyone who knows ANYTHING about local government knows that if the Tories are in Central Government then the Labour Councils will cut FRONT LINE services and make life VERY uncomfortable for the general public...but they will NEVER cut the admin and backroom staff- EVER.....it is obscene the way that Labour councils, especially in poor areas, make life VERY uncomfortable for the people and then blame central government...that is how they get their votes- as far as I can see, having been brought up in a very poor borough, all that Labour ever do is cr*p on the working class and since they failed to educate anyone, brainwash them into thinking it is the Tories' fault...they even sink so low as to leaflet schools- they are worse than the clergy.....

[JohnL]

mrwb Wrote:

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> Just gets better and better. I suppose inevitable

> due to the CPZ which will obviously come in

> regardless. Also Southwark seemingly desperate for

> cash..

There will be council tax increases too I expect (all over the UK).

In some ways it's better to add charges onto things that are voluntary (feel free to disagree :))

[rendelharris]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> Anyone who knows ANYTHING about local government

> knows that if the Tories are in Central Government

> then the Labour Councils will cut FRONT LINE

> services and make life VERY uncomfortable for the

> general public...but they will NEVER cut the admin

> and backroom staff- EVER.....it is obscene the way

> that Labour councils, especially in poor areas,

> make life VERY uncomfortable for the people and

> then blame central government...that is how they

> get their votes- as far as I can see, having been

> brought up in a very poor borough, all that Labour

> ever do is cr*p on the working class and since

> they failed to educate anyone, brainwash them into

> thinking it is the Tories' fault...they even sink

> so low as to leaflet schools- they are worse than

> the clergy.....

Yeah, you've been spewing this crap on here for years, and repetition does not make it (or you) any less repellent, false or stupid. If there was an ounce of truth in your absurd statements, why are all Tory councils having to make similar cutbacks to those made in Labour areas? Central government funding for Southwark council has been cut by ?107M, or 27%, since 2010. That, as idiots like you are so fond of typing, is FACT.