The Dog is to Become a 20 Room Hotel

[Annette Curtain]

*books table at Kahns*

[MrBen]

Whilst Fazer was a bit of a knob on that Rocca thread I'm also backing his general view of The Dog.

The Village businesses are (mostly) lazy in their service offering and frequently outdone by what you'll now find on Lordship Lane. The Dog trades on it's prime location and past glories but beyond that it's crap food, service and uninspired staff. They really need to up their game but the tragedy of it is they don't really have to.

I like the idea of the hotel if executed well and hope that will lead to new management downstairs and the place improving.

[Marmora Man]

It has always amazed me that Dulwich village itself has such lousy eateries. It seems to me to be a spot where a truly great aspiring Michelin style place would do well. Why not?

[fazer71]

Marmora Man Wrote:

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> It has always amazed me that Dulwich village

> itself has such lousy eateries. It seems to me to

> be a spot where a truly great aspiring Michelin

> style place would do well. Why not?

Does anyone think the locals would know a good eatery if they had one?

Let?s look at what there is ?. Crocka watery dudu, Pedigree Dog garbage, Pizza Express ?the best of a bad lot? and a Cafe Rubbish.

My theory WAS it?s the Water ? in the village.

But I think it?s the customers in their ignorance they?ll eat just about anything.

If they knew good food then that lot would be out of business.

The Dulwich Estate Freeholder has a lot to blame as quality family owned resturants owned resturants would never pass the Lease requirments unless they paid a higher rent and that would just kill they wouldn?t be able make a profit.

SO

Village People + Dulwich Estate = C??P food.

[Annette Curtain]

I do agree that the Dog in its current form is a tragedy.

Mind you the whole village is flabby food wise.

Pizza Express is probably the most honest offer. Except when I say that outloud it sounds ridiculous.

Is Pizza Express the best we can hope for.

NOOOOOOOOoooooo

* jumps off imaginary cliff *

[Jeremy]

Marmora Man Wrote:

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> It seems to me to be a spot where a truly great aspiring Michelin

> style place would do well. Why not?

No reason at all why it couldn't, I'm sure it could do very well. I think Beauberry House had fine-dining aspirations a few years ago, they had an expensive menu featuring wagyu beef, foie gras, etc. But the food and the interior just weren't up to scratch.

[fazer71]

Beauberry House changed its name from Belair House I wonder why?

I personally got serious food poisoning from Belair House it put me in bed for 3 days!

Reported it to Southwark never had any news back.?

[Huguenot]

Has fazer71 EVER been to a restaurant where it didn't go wrong? ;-)

[fazer71]

:)

Ah yes I have....

My current Fav's are.

The Palmerston "excellent but expensive"

Ganapati

Lorenzo's and Si Mangia for Italian.

The Prince Regent Dulwich Road Herne Hill great Pub with excellent food.

Mr Liu for takeaway Chinese, though the last one wasn?t that great ?. I?m looking for a Chinese recommendation anyone ?

Thai Corner Cafe but they're slipping a little and prices now HIGH.

There are others but I end up going to the above most weeks when I'm in the UK and don?t fancy doning a chefs hat.

[legalbeagle]

Suspect Dulwich Village suffers with crap eateries because those big chains are the only ones who can pay the rents demanded.......

[MrBen]

Beagle - that's what I thought but then Karter (who seems to know about these things) quoted the rates for the latest village unit let (Oddbins, retail use )and they were not too far off "indie" ED rates per annum / sq ft2. ?70-80k was it?

The Estate is actually a registered Charity so it's interested in maximising rents like anyone else - but they could do with looking a bit beyond that at the "true amenity value" and spin off from doing stuff that's more inspired. Dulwich Village has literally everything else going for it apart from a decent (i.e. above average) commercial offering.

[Annette Curtain]

Who actually manages the leases.

I know it's the "Estate" but who is MR/MS BIG at dishingoutdulwichvillageleases.com

Are they from Bromley or somewhere tedious like that.

WHOEVER it is I imagine they are a marks & sparks suede-cardigan-wearing-Rover-driving nitwit.

They've got a wife called Barbara or a husband called Roger. S/he's booked the same holiday with the same travel firm for the last 20 years. Their children are accountants or surveyors or conveyancing solicitors. And they have 2 grandchildren, one called Aimee and one called Christopher.

I dispise them and their Primula Light on Nimbble bread Chardonnay drinking frikkin sandwich faces.

I hope they go on holiday and for once take a different tour bus which goes up a mountain, never to be seen again.

Then and only then, will we get something different in the village of the damned.

NETTE:X

[womanofdulwich]

NOt that you like to pre- judge anyone then Annette??

[Annette Curtain]

womanofdulwich Wrote:

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> NOt that you like to pre- judge anyone then

> Annette??

Oi WOD

I've got the measure of you too.

NETTE;-)

[fazer71]

Love this thread.

Nice n funny n informative

*Annette you?re startin to get me going girl?. woof woof *

[Sue]

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> I dispise them and their Primula Light on Nimbble

> bread Chardonnay drinking frikkin sandwich faces.

>

> I hope they go on holiday and for once take a

> different tour bus which goes up a mountain, never

> to be seen again.

>

> Then and only then, will we get something

> different in the village of the damned.

>

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

:)):)):))

[maxxi]

fazer71 Wrote:

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> *Annette you?re startin to get me going girl?.

> woof woof *

I can't wait for that review.

[Annette Curtain]

fazer71 Wrote:

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> *Annette you?re startin to get me going girl?.

> woof woof *

fazer71

If you're like meat & two veg kinda guy, then I just might be the girl for you.

NETTE:-S

[maxxi]

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> fazer71 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

>

> > *Annette you?re startin to get me going girl?.

> > woof woof *

>

>

> fazer71

>

> If you're like meat & two veg kinda guy, then I

> just might be the girl for you.

>

>

> NETTE:-S

Regardless of ingredients I suspect it's more about the cooking skills employed for Fazer.

[fazer71]

If you're talking Couscous Royal

http://www.photos-culinaires.com/couscous-royal-zPC53.jpg

I'm your man....

[fazer71]

Or would you like me to cook up something more exotic?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1HrOdt5yDZk/SsytWBwPz7I/AAAAAAAABec/k4sU48ubR5w/s400/034.JPG

[fazer71]

I found a pic of the tasty food served in the Dog ... too

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8LNFtlPLalE/Sq-aclQfyyI/AAAAAAAAHIE/fjP-4qxjioI/s400/Red+Hot+%26+Blues+Burger.jpg

[MrBen]

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> Who actually manages the leases.

>

> I know it's the "Estate" but who is MR/MS BIG at

> dishingoutdulwichvillageleases.com

>

> Are they from Bromley or somewhere tedious like

> that.

>

> WHOEVER it is I imagine they are a marks & sparks

> suede-cardigan-wearing-Rover-driving nitwit.

>

> They've got a wife called Barbara or a husband

> called Roger. S/he's booked the same holiday with

> the same travel firm for the last 20 years. Their

> children are accountants or surveyors or

> conveyancing solicitors. And they have 2

> grandchildren, one called Aimee and one called

> Christopher.

>

> I dispise them and their Primula Light on Nimbble

> bread Chardonnay drinking frikkin sandwich faces.

>

> I hope they go on holiday and for once take a

> different tour bus which goes up a mountain, never

> to be seen again.

>

> Then and only then, will we get something

> different in the village of the damned.

Surely this is the best post of the year to date.

[Otta]

Am I the only one who thinks there is something really bleak about Dulwich Village? I can't exactly put my finger on it, but ever since I was a kid, I just didn't like being there.

[El Pibe]

It's the wide boulevard Otta.

You feel safer with the reassuring press of narrow streets and houses that loom rather than sit back and glower.