Green and Teggin Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I am a local architect and I am in the middle of compiling a book of ideas for extending a Victorian terraced house. This book will consist of various case studies of different kinds/sizes of Victorian terraced house, showing different plan options (annotated) for each floor with photos or 3D sketches showing how these ideas would look.I have had publishing offers from the RIBA (10% of book sales, they pay for all production and distribution) and Artifice (33% of book sales, but I pay 50% of publishing and distribution costs, which I think will amount to holf of around ?40,000 for 1000 copies). Neither seems that attractive. I am therefore turning to you to ask your advice. Should I go with one of the offers or do I risk it and self publish? One of the big questions is how many copies do I think will sell. There currently isn't anything else like it on the market.What do you think? Do you think it will sell? Would you buy it?Thanks for any advice. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townleygreen Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I'd post this in the Lounge as well, you'll increase your potential audience massively Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1285547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green and Teggin Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 Thanks Townleygreen, I will. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1286016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamc79 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I think it's a great idea. No idea about the maths or the merits of (self)publishing I'm afraid, but I would have bought a copy before I extended my Victorian terrace. Very happy for you to PM me if you want another case study. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1288118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swquiz Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Based on what I know about the two companies, I would say RIBA is a better proposition. I think your idea is suited to self-publishing since you have a very specific target audience, but I guess as an architect you'd want to do it in a relatively high-spec way, which could end up being costly for you.I'd buy it if I could afford to think about extending my house! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1288863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I've worked in publishing. Most publishing houses offer 10-15% royalty for professional books such as yours. 40,000k for self-publishing for only 1,000 copies is far too much and if somebody is quoting you that they are making a massive profit. If you do self- publish you'd pay about ?10,000 for a freelancer and then depending on how many copies anything from ?5 per copy (litho printing) to ?50 copy (laser printing). If you have a RIBA offer go for that because they will also promote it whereas if you self publish, even if you self publish practically for free, that's where you will stumble. RIBA would get you into specialist and museum shops which no way you'd be able to if you self publish. I think your book is s great idea and likely do unexpectedly well. Try see if RIBA will go to 20% royalty to try to settle at 15% Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1289088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_b Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I'd go with RIBA the promotion and brand association seems well worth it. I'd also consider why you're producing the book: money, publicity for your business or professional standing? It would seem that being published by RIBA would achieve the second two elements far better than self publishing. I don't know enough about the economics of publishing to know which would be best for you financially. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1289104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green and Teggin Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Thanks for all your feedback. I haven't actually had a quote for self publishing. The ?40,000 is what Artifice say it will cost to publish. They ask me to pay half of this and then I get a third of all royalties, they keep a third and a third goes to the distributers. I think I am veering towards the RIBA, as you all seem to suggest. I may kick myself if it turns out to be a best seller. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1289979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Green and Teggin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Thanks for all your feedback. I haven't actually> had a quote for self publishing. The ?40,000 is> what Artifice say it will cost to publish. They> ask me to pay half of this and then I get a third> of all royalties, they keep a third and a third> goes to the distributers. I think I am veering> towards the RIBA, as you all seem to suggest. I> may kick myself if it turns out to be a best> seller.Best-sellers happen because of the amount of money thrown at the publicity. It doesn't matter how good your book is if nobody knows about it, and to publicise a book costs a lot of money. If you think that you would be missing out, ask Artifice how and where they will promote your book and what does their 'distribution' entails, and ask RIBA the same question and then see who is going to reach the people who are more likely to want to read your book. Also ask yourself who is your book aimed at and who is going to reach those people best - Artifice or RIBA? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1290692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green and Teggin Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 Hi allIn case you are interested, I went with the RIBA deal in the end and the book was published last month. It's available on Amazon and at the RIBA bookshop, where it it discounted until this evening. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1466654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpsaucey Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Green and Teggin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Hi all> > In case you are interested, I went with the RIBA> deal in the end and the book was published last> month. It's available on Amazon and at the RIBA> bookshop, where it it discounted until this> evening.Congratulations. What's the title??HP Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1466818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green and Teggin Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Thanks. It's actually just called - How to Extend your Victorian Terraced House. It looks like it's still on sale in the RIBA bookshop -https://www.architecture.com/riba-books/search.html?searchterm=how%20to%20extend%20your%20victorian%20terraced%20house Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/206725-how-to-extend-your-victorian-terraced-house/#findComment-1466943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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