Blair & Bush found guilty...

[Carter]

Under a mock trial held in Malaysia former leaders Tony Blair and George Bush have been found guilty of war crimes. The trial was held under the same laws and rules as at Nurenburg.

The Press TV media report is here -:

The sheer hypocrisy of these s-called "leaders" who preach about the ?rule of law? and international ?human rights?, whilst completely ignoring them when it suits them to do so is almost too galling for words.

I hope that one day justice will prevail and that these criminals are held fully accountable for their actions.

[Huguenot]

Ha ha! :))

Malaysia?

This is the country where the political opposition are falsely accused of the offence of homosexuality in order to get them out of the picture? In Malaysia you get caned and 20 years jail for being gay.

You might as well say that the Iranian Republican Guard have indicted and charged George Bush with being the big satan.

What a joke.

Carter, you need to see the bigger picture, these guys are laughable.

[Bert Shackleton]

"These guys are laughable" - Malaysia? You are going to write off a nation with a sentence like that?

[Huguenot]

I wasn't laughing off a nation, it wasn't a Malaysian national court - I was laughing off this faction of ideologues in a country plagued by social extremists.

Hence my reference to an Iranian faction that's not representative of a nation.

This mock trial was likely as not held by the latest bunch of suburban academic wallies that in the UK would be selling the Socialist Worker outside East Dulwich station. The giggling girls in camera shot supported that interpretation.

[Huguenot]

Incidentally, I note that there is currently debate in Malaysian parliament about those found guilty of homosexuality to be subject to both federal and state punishment consecutively.

If passed, it means that gay people will first be caned and imprisoned for 20 years, and when they reuturn home after release they will be executed under sharia law.

And they want to charge Bush and Blair regarding human rights?

Laughable.

[Bert Shackleton]

Right, sorry for jumping down your throat.

[Consequential]

I'm strongly inclined to agree with Huguenot. Although I opposed our follies into Irag and Afghanistan, lending any serious debate to worthless trials of this nature breeds notions of legitimacy among the oppressive regimes that host them. It's akin to attention seeking. Besides, as has already been mentioned: it's not as though the countries involved have a spotless record themselves. Far from it, in fact.

[AllanMcPR]

Consequential Wrote:

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> I'm strongly inclined to agree with Huguenot.

> Although I opposed our follies into Irag and

> Afghanistan, lending any serious debate to

> worthless trials of this nature breeds notions of

> legitimacy among the oppressive regimes that host

> them. It's akin to attention seeking. Besides, as

> has already been mentioned: it's not as though the

> countries involved have a spotless record

> themselves. Far from it, in fact.

Wrong to say asking for attention when people are reading something disgraceful as Huguenot post!

Gog forgive me if I am wrong but I can not beleive this is a circle. I am reading peoples

opinions and exactly the same for what has happened 16 years ago. I am glad We have prove them to be wrong

and that was a matter of time shame on his friends who are not friends anymore. And going back

with somebody else suck $. Is discrinmination to other countries who for centuries have been miss judge

by other alias. OMG!

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[Huguenot]

acm, you clearly feel very strongly about this - which I respect.

Just don't try and use a bunch of idiots in an extremist faction as some flag waving exercise for 'justice'.

These guys are clearly prats exercising a bizarre PR stunt in a country that has no respect for human rights.

[Huguenot]

Just to add - it's very unlikely that the rules of engagement were literally nailed into your head, otherwise you'd have nails in your head.

If you've had the misfortune of encountering an IED this is plausible, but I'll bet they don't have the rules of engagement on them.

[acm]

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[Huguenot]

There was no trial.

There was only some ridiculous posturing in a muslim country famous for its human rights abuses.

As many of my tutors at University lay testament to, being a professor substantially increases the likelihood of someone being an idiot with extremist views.

[Loz]

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Former US president George W Bush and British ex-prime minister Tony Blair were Tuesday found guilty at a mock tribunal in Malaysia for committing "crimes against peace" during the Iraq war.

The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, part of an initiative by former Malaysian premier Mahathir Mohamad -- a fierce critic of the Iraq war -- found the former leaders guilty after a four-day hearing.

"The Tribunal deliberated over the case and decided unanimously that the first accused George Bush and second accused Blair have been found guilty of crimes against peace," the tribunal said in a statement.

"Unlawful use of force threatens the world to return to a state of lawlessness. The acts of the accused were unlawful."

Mahathir, who stepped down in 2003 after 22 years in power, unveiled plans for the tribunal in 2007 just before he condemned Bush and Blair as "child killers" and "war criminals" at the launch of an annual anti-war conference.

So, in other words, this 'tribunal' was set up to find Blair and Bush guilty. Hardly a fair trial - more a kangaroo court.

I would have no problem with Bush and Blair being put on trial, but it would need to be a legitimate court, not this farce.

[JohnL]

Only public documents were used.

So no MI5, CIA stuff. The stuff that goes to the heart of the matter. No US or British government stuff.

Seems rather pointless.