caro ed Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 are there any cameras in East Dulwich? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 This is the UK. We have over 20% of the world's installed CCTV cameras and ED has it's fair share. There are about 50 in Sainsburys alone. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Why, what were you thinking of doing? ;) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Yes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caro ed Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 PeckhamRose Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Why, what were you thinking of doing? ;)haha! Nothing that exciting sadly.. Just saw something on TV the other day about CCTV's in somewhere like Middlesborough which they have speakers attached, and the operators can spot people droppping rubbish and tell them to pick it up.. ended up getting into a chat with the boyfriend about whether we were being watched in ED or not! I was thinking that actually it would be quite good to know which streets do have cameras from the perspective of feeling a bit safer as a girl walking home late at night.. any ideas? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Depends where you start from and where you are going. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 It's false security. I'm female and I occasionally walk across the park after dark or down Rye Lane alone, I feel no safer just because there are cameras in rye Lane, and feel no more in danger just because there aren't, in the park. Point being, do some self defence, and don't look like a victim (carrying keys, talking into a mobile, looking nervous) etc. You can be sure there are cameras in the shops and Post office etc, and passing busses etc. But why live in fear? I'm sure you're not and were just wondering. But that's me. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 If you give us an idea of where you travel we can work out what cctv coverage there is. Its a good idea for an addition to the crime maps!. And CCTV does help - a bit, it displaces crime even if it doesn't reduce it so you are a bit safer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Tomasi Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 See here Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 caro ed Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I was thinking that actually it would be quite good to know which streets do have> cameras from the perspective of feeling a bit safer as a girl walking home late at night.. any> ideas?CCTV doesn't make you any safer. You just get to watch a repeat of your attack on a television at the local police station next day.ED is comparatively safe, but - male or female - just use some common sense. Stay on the main roads/busy areas as much as you can and don't go flashing smartphones around. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 There are statistics that show reduction in crime in areas covered by CCTV. Don't believe the nay sayers. They are right it doesn't erradicate crime but IT DOES REDUCE IT. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 There is also CCTV installed by Private Organisations and Individuals All of which can be used to prevent/ or investigate crime. Plus Bus lane cameras record everything not just cars in bus lanes so its not just Southwark proving CCTV Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsaboy Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 CCTV is everywhere you go, so behave yourselves. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 caro was asking for a safe route but didn't say where she was going . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 the-e-dealer Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> There are statistics that show reduction in crime in areas covered by CCTV. Don't believe the nay> sayers. They are right it doesn't erradicate crime but IT DOES REDUCE IT.Actually, stats and studies show CCTV is pretty ineffective.The home office did a study that showed CCTV had little effect in street crime levels. And a study from the University of Leicester concluded that CCTV had a temporary effect on shoplifting that wore off within six months. And the return on investment for CCTV systems in shops was approximately 57 years. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibilly99 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Bansky said it best before the GPO rubbed it off ...http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_03/Banksy2CCTVSPL_468x443.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-496991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caro ed Posted March 18, 2012 Author Share Posted March 18, 2012 I walk from East Dulwich Station to Dulwich Library - normally stay on Lordship Lane but interested to know if any of the back roads are covered. I kind of agree with those saying it wouldn't necessarily have an impact on the likelihood of something happening but still, good to know. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-531655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 There are Cameras in every Area... The vast majority are to catch Motorists... Much fewer to protect your safety if you are robbed on the street.. Fox. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-531658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The vast majority of CCTV cameras are privately owned and hence absolutely nothing to do with catching motorists.Sorry to disappoint. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-531663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 *Bob* Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The vast majority of CCTV cameras are privately> owned and hence absolutely nothing to do with> catching motorists.> > > Sorry to disappoint.I am talking about street cameras. not ones in stores...There are even talk about private companies taking over control of Speed cameras.Some may already be operating in this way., but getting details from Local Authorities proves to be a sensitive issue. Like that of Private clamping.Not at all Disappointed.Fox.. Never Argues... Just quotes facts. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-531669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Southwark Cuncil has just over 100 CCTV cameras. Obviously they're largely where crime is significantly higher than East Dulwich. Very occassionally covert CCTV will used underRIPA powers but again this would be for serious incidences of crime.The fixed CCTV Southwark has is going to mortised asits ancient and mostly can't be used evidentially.If anyone wants more tails please email me. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/20371-cctv/#findComment-531684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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