Jump to content

Recommended Posts

This is worth a read, though I do post with the caveat that it is a Daily Mail article, so apologies for that;


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2050239/How-washing-machines-familys-health-risk-Low-temperatures-mixed-loads-spreading-dangerous-bugs.html


I don't think this is cause for panic, but I do think it is worth bearing in mind that some items - towels, bedding maybe, and certainly cloth nappies (I have to include those, don't I)! and certain clothes depending what they have been exposed to, should be washed at 60 degrees.


The article mentions Nappisan, but remember this can be very damaging to modern shaped nappies, items with elastic, velcro or any bamboo fabrics so is best avoided, other than on flat terry squares, towels etc.


Most of our washing is done at 30 degrees, but I still wash towels and bedding at higher temps. What about everyone else?

There is also this, which is what I always told people about in my nappy demos;


"Many consumers believe biological detergents are harsher on sensitive skin, but a study published in the British Journal Of Dermatology found little evidence for this."


Because the non-bios contain bleach, whilst the bios contain enzymes, and actually both can be equally aggressive on the skin. What is relevant is how much detergent you use in each wash, and what you/your family happens to be sensitive to. There is no non-bio detergent in most of Europe and no higher incidence of skin sensitivity or eczema.


Food for thought!


Molly

I also wash towels and bedding at 60C and the rest at 30 or 40 depending on stains. I do think the actual risk of catching something dangerous through a laundry that you won't catch through normal contact within a family is probably very small. If norovirus only spread through contact with poo we wouldn't all get it so easily although I understand that you may want to exclude as much risk as possible with a newborn or somebody of weak overall health. Good point about the hygiene of the washing machine itself though!
Hi, I wash towels, bedding and Muslins at 60, clothing at 40 unless it's a small load which takes 40 mins but at 30degrees. If you constantly wash at 30 and 40 bacteria builds up in your rubber seal! Once a month do a 90degree cycle but with nothing in the machine, just powder/tablet, whatever you use.

Very interesting - but based on the advice here, I'm going to be doing about 8 separate washes a week, and will end up with very small smalls if I put them in on 60 degrees!!


I do wash bedding and towels at 60 though, and occasionally run a 90 degree wash through, with some vinegar as I was told an old trick years ago that the acid in that helps to desolve (TMI alert) body fats from the machine. Eeewww.

Oh and I think another old wive's tip is that ironing also serves a purpose other than neatness. The hot iron helps to get rid of those nasty little bugs.


With all the non-iron stuff now I know I get away with far less ironing than my mum would be pleased with! :-)

I've always thought that the concept of washing at low temps to be environmentally friendly is actually a marketing ploy to get you to buy new detergents. The heat and energy used to make these fancy new detergents is probably more than what you save by doing low temp washes.


I prefer to wash in hotter water with less detergent. When clothes can't be washed warm/hot, I tend to soak or wash them longer. And I hate, really HATE, when I've just washed my hands and dried them, only to find there's a slight mildew smell from the 'clean' towel!!!! If that ever happens around here, it's straight in a 90 C wash I'm afraid.

I tend to do sheets and towels at 60 and everything else at 30 - it seemed like common sense to me that the things that were most likely to be in prolonged and reasonably intimate contact with us would need a bit of sanitisation. Good to know that it was a logical decision! :)

Yay! "Researchers found the only way to eradicate the bacterium (Staphylococcus aureus) was with temperatures of 40c and above combined with a detergent containing bleach."


I've continued using non-bio for my eczema ridden lot despite knowing about the dermatological research but always wondered if it was maybe just my imagination that it appeared to make a difference to husband and itchy small. But that explains it. Staph A is a real problem for A and her dad, as it is for many with eczema, so the beneficial effects of the bleach in the non-bio dealing with the Staph obviously override whatever irritation it causes. Won't be the same for everyone of course, but it appears to work for us.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • I think there's a fair number of "participating" sub offices that do passports or, at least, play the "check and send" game (£16 for glancing at your form), so some degree of cherry-picking seems to be permitted. Though it does look as if Post Offices "Indentity Services" are where it things the future lies, and "Right to Rent" (though it's more an eligibility check) looks a bit of an earner, along with DBS checks and the Age Verification services that, if the government gets its way, we'll all need to subscribe to before we're allowed on mumsnet. Those services, incidentally, seem mostly outsourced to an outfit called "Yoti", a privately-owned, loss-making "identity platform" with debts of £150m, a tardy approach to filings, and a finger in a bunch of questionable pies ("Passive Facial Liveness Recognition" sounds gloriously sinister) so what the Post Office gets out of the arrangement isn't clear, but I'm sure they think it worthwhile. That said, they once thought the same of funeral plans which, for some peculiar reason, failed to set fire to the shuffling queues, even metaphorically. For most, it seems, Post Office work is mostly a dead loss, and even the parcel-juggling is more nuisance than blessing. As a nonchalant retailer of other people's services the organisation can only survive now on the back of subsidies, and we're not even sure what they are. The taxpayer-funded subsidies from government (a £136m hand-out to keep Horizon going, £1bn for its compensation scheme, around £50m for the network, and perhaps a loan or two) are clearish, but the cross-subsidies provided by other retail activities in branches are murkier. As are the "phantom shortfalls" created by the Horizon system, which secretly lined Post Office's coffers as postmasters balanced the books with contributions from their own pockets. Those never showed up in the accounts though - because Horizon *was* the accounting system - so we can't tell how much of a subsidy that was. We might get an idea of the scale, however, from Post Office's belated Horizon Shortfall Scheme, which is handing £75k to every branch that's complained, though it's anyone's guess if that's fair or not. Still, that's all supposed to be behind us now, and Post Office's CEO-of-the-week recently promised an "extra" £250m a year for the branches (roughly enough to cover a minimum wage worker in each), which might make it worth the candle for some. Though he didn't expect that would happen before 2030 (we can only wonder when his pension will mature) and then it'd be "subject to government funding", so it might have to be a very short candle as it doesn't look like a promise that he can make. Still, I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from applying for a franchise, and it's possible that, this time, Post Office will be telling the truth. And, you never know, we might all be back in the Post Office soon, and eagerly buying stamps, if only for existence permits, rather than for our letters.
    • The situation outside Oru is far worse with their large tables immediately adjacent to badly parked bikes using the bike racks there. And the lamppost also blocking the pavement.
    • Urgently looking for a garage in SE London - Brockley, Crofton Park, Catford, Lewisham, Honor Oak, Dulwich, Forest Hill, Sydenham, Deptford, New Cross, Hither Green or Lee would all work. Willing to pay market rent. Must be available long term. Please call Andrew on 07740 339669 if you have one available.
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...